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Old 04-30-14, 11:03 PM   #1
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I feel like I need to get this information out there to help any future Stabilizer Link shoppers. I've had the experience of owning a set of 'Moog Problem Solver' Stabilizer Links on my car. I've had them for a little over a year, and this is what I've noticed.

1. They were already slightly corroded out of the box, so I decided to paint them before putting them on the car. This became my bad first impression, although I have to say that this is a very common problem with a lot of aftermarket parts.

2. Even though these links have a 14mm nut welded onto the threaded shaft, to help during R&R, one of them still managed to seize up on me. I tried soaking it in PB Blaster, using an electric impact, and clamping the nut with my vise grips, which only resulted in damaged tools. I ended up cutting the nut to get it off. Luckily, only one out of four corners on the car experienced this issue.

3. After replacing my struts, a clunk in my Driver Left strut, and multiple trips to the mechanic, it has been determined that the sound was coming from one of the ball sockets. Apparently the removal process somehow damaged the joint of the link, so now I need to replace it.

I have replaced the cut off link with a Moog Problem Solver, but I'm considering going with Deeza links for the broken socket situation. The only thing I liked about Moog was the welded nut, but it seems like even that does not help removal.

Just to note: All links were greased up, so the failure did not happen due to a lack of lubrication.


p.s.: Should have listened to Lexus 2000, back when I was looking for these parts in 2011.

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I will be going through RockAuto to get a warranty replacement for the broken socket.
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Replacing another link in the Rear Right under warranty. Developed a clunking sound.
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Moog at one time made some really good stuff but that hasn't been the case in 10+ years, at least most of the parts I've seen. There are exceptions I've seen some Moog ball joints that were nice, at least they looked high quality.
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Moog at one time made some really good stuff but that hasn't been the case in 10+ years, at least most of the parts I've seen. There are exceptions I've seen some Moog ball joints that were nice, at least they looked high quality.
I read many DIY auto forums and the general consensus is that Moog quality is in the toilet. Their Problem Solver line is better than the rest of their junk but even they are getting sketchy. Quite a shame. When I was a kid, Moog was absolutely top shelf.
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Not to sound stupid, but if MOOGs overall quality is questionable, what quality aftermarket suspension companies are there left? Most brands on rock auto like dorman and mevotech I've heard about quality issues from them as well.
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FEQ makes a decent control arm, their axles are good as well. Sankei 555 is the same as OEM I buy those when ever possible. Otherwise just buy OES/OEM find an online dealer to save money, buying cheap aftermarket is false value you will pay more in the end. I swear some people are allergic to genuine parts and never look for them outside of walking into to the local dealer. Search Ebay as well I've found factory parts substantially cheaper even with shipping.
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Not to sound stupid, but if MOOGs overall quality is questionable, what quality aftermarket suspension companies are there left? Most brands on rock auto like dorman and mevotech I've heard about quality issues from them as well.
With all of the mergers, acquisitions, re-boxing and outsourcing, buying aftermarket parts is a total crapshoot, plain and simple.
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FEQ makes a decent control arm, their axles are good as well. Sankei 555 is the same as OEM I buy those when ever possible. Otherwise just buy OES/OEM find an online dealer to save money, buying cheap aftermarket is false value you will pay more in the end. I swear some people are allergic to genuine parts and never look for them outside of walking into to the local dealer. Search Ebay as well I've found factory parts substantially cheaper even with shipping.
Buying OEM is definitely the way to go. I learned that through experience (not just these links).
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Buying OEM is definitely the way to go. I learned that through experience (not just these links).
I learned this a looooonng time ago.

Swaybar endlinks is not something I would even consider buying aftermarket.
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