please dont buy JP products just for the sake of VIP...thats turrible.

 

My tires are 215/30/20 on a 9.5" & 245/30/20 10.5" also -3 camber all around how much more aggressive can you get lol

 

says who? and please dont say the VIP gods over at VSC~

 

Lookin good so far bro.lol..

 

Come on now. Regardless of VSC, the IS is not a VIP platform car. How many IS' have you seen in VIPCAR or VIPStyle?
I think its becoming more widely accepted that pretty much any big body luxury sedan can qualify as VIP. The IS can be styled like VIP and I think the OP is on his way there. The hood must be painted or returned to stock though.
Eye ess is the best example I've seen of a vip styled IS.

 

Seen a Windom in VIPCAR... and according to VSC is that a VIP platform car?

 

You mean the JDM equivalent of an ES? Still fits the 'big body luxury' car.
I don't understand what VSC has to do with any of this.

 

haters gonna hate?

 

car looks good, but i just cant understand why some people chase the scene, or a certain look. make it how YOU want it, who cares if it isnt "vip enough"? not hating, just a comment, keep up the good work

 

I wouldn't start this argument if I were you.

Not here, not this forum lol

 

every "rule" that the general u.s. consensus feels valid have been indirectly disproved by the japanese. who made the rules? no one. they were an interpretation of what people over here perceived people over there were doing at a certain point in time. it's not that serious until people with a need to be a part of something go overboard. this goes both ways. a platform car is not automatically vip, and vip does not automatically have to be a platform car. tacking "style" onto the end of the phrase does nothing; vip in itself is a style of modification, not a style of car. look at facts, not opinions stated as such.

and vsc has nothing to do with the debate.

 

It could be considering it is longer [but less wider than the GS]. Except the people that try and do it on an ES300 are always faced with MANY problems... and more importantly no support in the aftermarket I mean, JP neckpads & shades are about as far as you can go in terms of universal.

I have an ES300, and thank god i didn't go down the same path as the two people [i respect very much to this day for their accomplishments], Smitty and Charley240sx, as they are the ES300 'vip gods', and at the end of the day, for what? Much headache and frustration with a very limiting and low slung undercarriage [like another member KaldES98 was faced with] on coils, pricey and hard to find bodykits, and very limiting wheel wells. The ES can't sit as low as say, a GS on static or air ride with 19" wheels. Bodykits/jdm stuff is a dime a dozen - something the ES doesn't see on these shores, in Japan yes.

Mind you the above people are going to be looked up to for years to come since their ES300's we're the nicest bar-none in North America.

if money is not object than great! if it is then get a GSx00, LS4x0... not an ES300, its not worth it in terms of money & hassle.

Regardless, i can go on, but i won't since i'm just ranting at this point.

 

That's where you are misinformed.

VIP is a style of car. That's the point of VIP cars and VIP inspired cars. One is legit, the other is inspired. Like when you go to the Bay and you see something like "Inspired by Beckham" cologne, that isn't Beckham cologne, it's a fake rip off.


Your opinion vs ours, it will always be different but we view vip cars the way they're supposed to be done.

 

i gaurentee you i am not misinformed. there may be alternate opinions, but they can easily be weeded out with indesputable evidence. no car rolls off the line called "vip", period. a lexus is not a vip car based simply on the make/model. it is vip because of the styling applied to it.

vipcar and vip style magazine have featured fwd/awd/rwd/coupe/midsize/fullsize/japanese/european/domestic cars. there is no purist argument you can not disprove. an exception means there is no rule. if you watch japanese show coverage, non-platform cars are few and far between but they are there. it's all about execution of the style.

look at what is really going on, not what you read on wikipedia. the truth is not in words. "vip insired" is a phrase made by americans in an effort to stay true to japanese roots. sometimes it's just easier to say no that to explain multiple scenarios in which most options are wrong.

 

There are usually "guidelines" to any style. Can a Jetta be considered VIP? I personally don't care if Taketomi himself did one up, I would never consider it VIP in any way shape or form.