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Old Jun 5, 2022 | 05:43 AM
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Default Swift Springs installed, need camber kit?

Been almost a week since I had Swifts installed & car aligned. I love the drop and ride is basically stock with less roll and tighter cornering. But I am noticing slight pull to the right, and the camber #s pretty off. Camber kit necessary? Anyone else experience this? Thanks




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Old Jun 6, 2022 | 07:07 AM
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That looks amazing, probably the best combo right there of color, wheels and the perfect subtle drop. I did the rears only a couple of weeks ago and am having the fronts installed today. From the rears only, I noticed no alignment issues over the past few weeks. Once I install the GS-F +20 caster front lower control arm bushings, I'll get an alignment done and see where the numbers are.

An adjustable rear camber link should be an easy installation if needed.
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Old Jun 7, 2022 | 04:46 AM
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That looks amazing, probably the best combo right there of color, wheels and the perfect subtle drop. I did the rears only a couple of weeks ago and am having the fronts installed today. From the rears only, I noticed no alignment issues over the past few weeks. Once I install the GS-F +20 caster front lower control arm bushings, I'll get an alignment done and see where the numbers are.

An adjustable rear camber link should be an easy installation if needed.
Let me know how your #s look once you get them specd. Do you already have the lower control bushings on?
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Old Jun 7, 2022 | 06:58 AM
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Let me know how your #s look once you get them specd. Do you already have the lower control bushings on?
Not yet, should have them on and the car aligned by the end of the day. I'll try to get the sheet and post it.
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Let me know how your #s look once you get them specd. Do you already have the lower control bushings on?
I don't have the numbers unfortunately but they shop claimed that it was all in spec. They said it was tough with the GS-F +20 LCA bushings. I don't notice a huge difference but the car maybe feels a bit more stable under braking and the turn-in feels much quicker, although the springs may have played into that as well.

I don't have a pull, but more like a gradual drift to the right if I let go of the wheel along with a slightly off-centered steering wheel a couple degrees to the right. The shop offered to take another look but didn't seem confident they will get there. I will try a couple of minor front toe adjustments to see if I can get the steering wheel straight. According to what I have researched, I shouldn't throw any of the numbers off If I nudge both tie rods equally over. Seems easy enough to try.
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Old Jun 8, 2022 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BMGS
I don't have the numbers unfortunately but they shop claimed that it was all in spec. They said it was tough with the GS-F +20 LCA bushings. I don't notice a huge difference but the car maybe feels a bit more stable under braking and the turn-in feels much quicker, although the springs may have played into that as well.

I don't have a pull, but more like a gradual drift to the right if I let go of the wheel along with a slightly off-centered steering wheel a couple degrees to the right. The shop offered to take another look but didn't seem confident they will get there. I will try a couple of minor front toe adjustments to see if I can get the steering wheel straight. According to what I have researched, I shouldn't throw any of the numbers off If I nudge both tie rods equally over. Seems easy enough to try.
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For sure many are going to say no. I will just about guarantee you need to have this done. Especially with the suspension changes. I had this done and when I installed my new Struts and 19 offset wheels, and 4 wheel Alignment. Noticed a immediate difference as soon as I drove away from the shop.

Its in the 4th Gen GS Tech Stream. The 1st thing you have to do before the recalibration is set the wheel to point straight.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...echstream.html

PS: The Toyota Mater Tech that helped me on my car had the Tech Stream app for my GS350 (I give him a $20 for Lunch Tip every time). I have Tech Stream too, but was afraid to do by myself. He did it for me for free. I talked him through finding the option in Tech Steam. Find it, set the Wheel straight and then - Press Rest/Initialize. DONE! lol! That simple. Done for free. I called Lexus and they wanted $250 to hook up to OBD and push the button?

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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 05:27 AM
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For sure many are going to say no. I will just about guarantee you need to have this done. Especially with the suspension changes. I had this done and when I installed my new Struts and 19 offset wheels, and 4 wheel Alignment. Noticed a immediate difference as soon as I drove away from the shop.

Its in the 4th Gen GS Tech Stream. The 1st thing you have to do before the recalibration is set the wheel to point straight.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...echstream.html

PS: The Toyota Mater Tech that helped me on my car had the Tech Stream app for my GS350 (I give him a $20 for Lunch Tip every time). I have Tech Stream too, but was afraid to do by myself. He did it for me for free. I talked him through finding the option in Tech Steam. Find it, set the Wheel straight and then - Press Rest/Initialize. DONE! lol! That simple. Done for free. I called Lexus and they wanted $250 to hook up to OBD and push the button?
Thank you and I will definitely give this a shot. I saw this just now and did a minor toe adjustment this morning to the opposite direction of where the steering wheel was off. I used a feeler gauge to measure the distance I adjusted and marked the threads so I can get back to where I was if needed. The general alignment didn't change much and actually feels very good, but to my surprise, the steering wheel was further off than before.

Was the car running when you reset the calibration or with engine off and in the on/ready mode?

Thanks,
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Thank you and I will definitely give this a shot. I saw this just now and did a minor toe adjustment this morning to the opposite direction of where the steering wheel was off. I used a feeler gauge to measure the distance I adjusted and marked the threads so I can get back to where I was if needed. The general alignment didn't change much and actually feels very good, but to my surprise, the steering wheel was further off than before.

Was the car running when you reset the calibration or with engine off and in the on/ready mode?

Thanks,
So I was at the Toyota Dealer and the Master Tech brought he Tech Stream unit out on the service drive. I was standing outside the car trying to tell him where I saw the setting to rest/initialize in the laptop device screen. I honestly cant remember? If it was on or not?

So I know he set and turned the Steering wheel to dead straight position, because Tech Stream read and said too, so guessing the car was running? But some cars with electric steering will turn with the key on not running. I don't think the GS will.... but IDK?

I was having him reset everything for me, Steering/AVS Struts, TB, Trans ECU, MAF, everything I saw in there. lol! As soon as I left the Dealership parking lot I immediately felt the difference. The steering was way sharper, the Struts felt smooth, and the Suspension just felt so even handling tight and precise and sharper. It took some miles for the Trans shifts, TB, and other but it was like I had a different car.

I would highly suggest you get you car to Toyota or Lexus. Let them do a Computer 4 wheel alignment to their specs and machine that give the recommendations. Then also let them do the reset/initialization.
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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jgscott
So I was at the Toyota Dealer and the Master Tech brought he Tech Stream unit out on the service drive. I was standing outside the car trying to tell him where I saw the setting to rest/initialize in the laptop device screen. I honestly cant remember? If it was on or not?

So I know he set and turned the Steering wheel to dead straight position, because Tech Stream read and said too, so guessing the car was running? But some cars with electric steering will turn with the key on not running. I don't think the GS will.... but IDK?

I was having him reset everything for me, Steering/AVS Struts, TB, Trans ECU, MAF, everything I saw in there. lol! As soon as I left the Dealership parking lot I immediately felt the difference. The steering was way sharper, the Struts felt smooth, and the Suspension just felt so even handling tight and precise and sharper. It took some miles for the Trans shifts, TB, and other but it was like I had a different car.

I would highly suggest you get you car to Toyota or Lexus. Let them do a Computer 4 wheel alignment to their specs and machine that give the recommendations. Then also let them do the reset/initialization.
I know what you mean, I had mine aligned at a dealer a few months ago after a collision repair and it felt significantly better than before. Before I do that, I want to try a few things because I am stubborn and I think I made my toe adjustments in the wrong direction. Since I used a feeler gauge, I can easily and precisely make that correction.
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Originally Posted by BMGS
I know what you mean, I had mine aligned at a dealer a few months ago after a collision repair and it felt significantly better than before. Before I do that, I want to try a few things because I am stubborn and I think I made my toe adjustments in the wrong direction. Since I used a feeler gauge, I can easily and precisely make that correction.

Yep, like I can talk. I did the Struts a year ago, and just got all the stuff reset last month. lol!
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Originally Posted by jgscott
Yep, like I can talk. I did the Struts a year ago, and just got all the stuff reset last month. lol!
Yeah it takes time! That's why I try to DIY when I can, even if it means a long-term learning experience like with this steering wheel adjustment. I haven't touched Techstream beacuse I think I can dial it in using the tie rods. My original though was to move the tie rods in the direction to correct the steering wheel but that was wrong. I just need to point the wheel straight and adjust the rods from there. I made only a 2mm adjustment on each side and I overshot it to the other side. Now that I am more familiar with the tolerances, moving it back 1mm on each side should get me pretty close and I can fine tune more using the feeler gauge to measure the tie rod adjustments. Obviously this is what they do on the alignment rack but I am doing it in the garage in the morning and driving to work then coming back the next morning and adjusting. That can take a few days but I think I can get there. The car does feel really good with those GS-F LCA bushings though.
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Hi, so far have you encountered either front or rear bottom out or hit the bump stop yet? I do understand installing lowering spring, the shock travel will be shortened. TIA
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