Help!! Spacer Wobble!!
#1
Racer
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Help!! Spacer Wobble!!
I just installed front 20mm spacers, torqued everything down and installed, started driving and there is a very noticeable wobble, steering wheel is wobbling back and forth. Any suggestions? Rear 15 mm come tomorrow
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Sounds like something in not sitting straight or flush. Did you try and uninstall and reinstall? Just to see if something was not sitting correctly.
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#3
Racer
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I double checked everything before install, everything looked good. going to reinstall tonight and hope for the best. they’re hubcentric too and i’ve only read issues on non hubcentric spacers
#4
Are they 60.1 mm hub centers? Any contaminants between the wheel hub and the spacer itself causing it not to sit flat? Same with spacer and rims?
#5
Racer
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#6
how is your wheel off an inch. even a hair would be extremely excessive at speed. yes a literal hair. But an inch?
And no you can't notice a hair off with your eyes. something is seriously wrong with the way you installed it.
post pics of what you're working with. spacer, rotor surface, and wheel hub surface (actual wheel mounting surface)
everything must be medical grade clean. sanded down. wire brushed. prior to install. then torqued properly in sequence.
And no you can't notice a hair off with your eyes. something is seriously wrong with the way you installed it.
post pics of what you're working with. spacer, rotor surface, and wheel hub surface (actual wheel mounting surface)
everything must be medical grade clean. sanded down. wire brushed. prior to install. then torqued properly in sequence.
#7
Racer
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how is your wheel off an inch. even a hair would be extremely excessive at speed. yes a literal hair. But an inch?
And no you can't notice a hair off with your eyes. something is seriously wrong with the way you installed it.
post pics of what you're working with. spacer, rotor surface, and wheel hub surface (actual wheel mounting surface)
everything must be medical grade clean. sanded down. wire brushed. prior to install. then torqued properly in sequence.
And no you can't notice a hair off with your eyes. something is seriously wrong with the way you installed it.
post pics of what you're working with. spacer, rotor surface, and wheel hub surface (actual wheel mounting surface)
everything must be medical grade clean. sanded down. wire brushed. prior to install. then torqued properly in sequence.
Take "just a hair" with a grain of salt. please.
Yes, Ive cleaned spacer and wheel hub. Everything is perfect now besides that broken security lug. Picking one up from the dealer later today and reinstalling that wheel. While spinning the right wheel, you could literally see the wheel jump in inch when spinning. Yes, I torqued in sequence using a torque wrench down to 88 lb ft. However I did notice an ever so slight pull to the right while driving, My guess is the broken lug not being torqued all the way down(its broken) but Im fixing that in a few hours.
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#8
Maybe your tire or wheel is messed up. One lug not tightened would not cause the wheel to jump around. if you still have trouble, post a video of that
#9
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I still don't understand the wheel "jumping an inch"
What does that mean?
How do you crack a lug nut?
Also my manual says to torque lugs to 76lbs/ft.
Make sure your torquing both the spacer and lug nuts. In regaurds to your 15mm spacers, you MUST replace the wheel studs with longer hardened bolts too. If you dont want to you can go 10 or 20mm.
What does that mean?
How do you crack a lug nut?
Also my manual says to torque lugs to 76lbs/ft.
Make sure your torquing both the spacer and lug nuts. In regaurds to your 15mm spacers, you MUST replace the wheel studs with longer hardened bolts too. If you dont want to you can go 10 or 20mm.
#10
Racer
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I still don't understand the wheel "jumping an inch"
What does that mean?
How do you crack a lug nut?
Also my manual says to torque lugs to 76lbs/ft.
Make sure your torquing both the spacer and lug nuts. In regaurds to your 15mm spacers, you MUST replace the wheel studs with longer hardened bolts too. If you dont want to you can go 10 or 20mm.
What does that mean?
How do you crack a lug nut?
Also my manual says to torque lugs to 76lbs/ft.
Make sure your torquing both the spacer and lug nuts. In regaurds to your 15mm spacers, you MUST replace the wheel studs with longer hardened bolts too. If you dont want to you can go 10 or 20mm.
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These are hubcentric, so I shouldn’t need longer studs right? they spacers had plenty of thread to grab on to, i had to use deepwell sockets to torque them down, the bolt went all the way through the tapered bolt. the studs built into the spacers were also plenty long for the lugs, correct me if i’m wrong please ���� And i have no idea how the security lug cracked. i was torquing them to 88 ft lbs(found the torque online)
The Lug Nut torque is typically 76 lbs/ft
Last edited by TOPENDMS; 09-18-18 at 03:14 PM.
#12
Racer
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Factory wheel studs with 15mm spacers will protrude and hit the back of the wheel. 15mm spacers typically do not have bolts attached because they require larger studs. The ones you have might be expecting you to cut the OEM studs? You can go ahead and test fit, but according to the official Eibach and H&R products, that is going to be the case.
The Lug Nut torque is typically 76 lbs/ft
The Lug Nut torque is typically 76 lbs/ft
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Just to be clear, my recommendations are based on the fact that Eibach/H&R do not make their 15mm spacer with the lug bolts pressed into the unit and instead include longer lug bolts. The assumption here is that the oem lug bolts are too long for a spacer with pressed bolts (will hit wheel), and the oem lug bolts are too short to give the lug nuts enough bite (or they would use a plate style with oem bolts like their 10mm).
I'm not an engineer, but these are clear examples why I personally stay away from replica/no name products. Theres also the issue of weak lug bolts that can snap and spacers that chemically weld the wheel to the hub. My recommendation is to always use name brand or a product that makes it very clear they did all the research and have the right product for the right application, and use the right materials for the job.
For spacers I would mostly be concerned with the lug bolt quality. They probably need to be hardened so they do not break and have a special type of threading manufacturing so they so not strip. The spacer itself may also need to be of a particular material so it does not weld itself to the hub/wheel. Look on youtube, youll find a handfull of spacers seized to the hub. Theres even one shown in a Fitment Industries video of a guy taking a sledge hammer to his wheel to remove it.. and its not budging.
I'm not an engineer, but these are clear examples why I personally stay away from replica/no name products. Theres also the issue of weak lug bolts that can snap and spacers that chemically weld the wheel to the hub. My recommendation is to always use name brand or a product that makes it very clear they did all the research and have the right product for the right application, and use the right materials for the job.
For spacers I would mostly be concerned with the lug bolt quality. They probably need to be hardened so they do not break and have a special type of threading manufacturing so they so not strip. The spacer itself may also need to be of a particular material so it does not weld itself to the hub/wheel. Look on youtube, youll find a handfull of spacers seized to the hub. Theres even one shown in a Fitment Industries video of a guy taking a sledge hammer to his wheel to remove it.. and its not budging.
Last edited by TOPENDMS; 09-19-18 at 04:46 PM.
#14
Racer
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Just to be clear, my recommendations are based on the fact that Eibach/H&R do not make their 15mm spacer with the lug bolts pressed into the unit and instead include longer lug bolts. The assumption here is that the oem lug bolts are too long for a spacer with pressed bolts (will hit wheel), and the oem lug bolts are too short to give the lug nuts enough bite (or they would use a plate style with oem bolts like there 10mm).
#15
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Based on what I read on here I was prepared to cut my OEM studs while installing 15MM ICHIBA Version 2 Hubcentric Wheel Spacers on my rear wheels, but to my surprise they fit without any cutting...should I be worried? hahaha. I haven't noticed a wobble or anything like that so I'm pretty sure I installed them correctly.