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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Alright I am gonna stick around a little before I get the TSIB done. It seem everyone got their done at higher mileage.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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It was posted a while back that the from-the-factory brake pads for 09s had been changed to the TSIB pads a couple months into the production run... so only early built 09s should even have the issue.
maybe i have one of those early built 09s. brake dust on my front is pretty bad.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SwooshICE
maybe i have one of those early built 09s. brake dust on my front is pretty bad.
Yes, on my 07 I was surprised how much dust was generated in under 20 miles of driving, pretty bad.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Another success story.
Took my 07 is250 into the dealer with nearly 27000 miles, over 2 years of ownership. They switched out the pads with no problems. I just made sure to go in with black brake dust covered front wheels. No questions asked.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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I took mine in for my 10k service and my service manager told me that they could put the dust free pads on at no charge because it is covered under my warranty. So I did so. This was last Wednesday (5/13). My front rims look nice and clean still.

However, I have noticed a major difference in the amount of force I have to press down on the brake pedal to brake. It is significantly much more. I can brake in the same way as before, but I'm just not at fan on stomping on the brake pedal. I'm considering in switching to the old ones, which will unfortunately cost me out of pocket. Can't win it all, I suppose.

BTW, the dealership was Burdick Lexus in Syracuse NY. I like them a lot but I JUST moved to Poughkeepsie NY. Greenwich, CT, Mt. Kisco, NY, and Prestige Lexus, NJ are near me, anyone have suggestions on which is the best?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dayrinni
I took mine in for my 10k service and my service manager told me that they could put the dust free pads on at no charge because it is covered under my warranty. So I did so. This was last Wednesday (5/13). My front rims look nice and clean still.

However, I have noticed a major difference in the amount of force I have to press down on the brake pedal to brake. It is significantly much more. I can brake in the same way as before, but I'm just not at fan on stomping on the brake pedal. I'm considering in switching to the old ones, which will unfortunately cost me out of pocket. Can't win it all, I suppose.

Whereas I found the less grabby low-dust pads a huge improvement... braking is far more linear and predictable rather than the original pads which were more like tap the brakes and you're going through the windshield if you didn't buckle up...

As you note of course the actual stopping ability is identical, it's just a feel thing.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
Dealers denying it never made any sense at all to me... for one the TSIB states anytime during the 50k warranty period... for another, no matter how new or worn the dusty pads are, they're going in the trash after they take em off.

I know I've heard the occasional dealer refuse, but never understood how they're able to. (mine were done at my 10k service with no issues, but I'm sure I had a decent bit of pad left anyway)
Same here. Additionally, aren't dealerships are reimbursed by Lexus for warranty work? What is the point of denying it?

I am in Houston, so I have access to 4 different dealers. Maybe that adds some persuasion when I bring up TSIBs and such.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
Whereas I found the less grabby low-dust pads a huge improvement... braking is far more linear and predictable rather than the original pads which were more like tap the brakes and you're going through the windshield if you didn't buckle up...

As you note of course the actual stopping ability is identical, it's just a feel thing.
I'm one of those people who like grabby brakes. I suppose it reminds me of the old GM cars I had where I had to smash the brake pedal to stop the car. Haha, it is funny because I even had bad dreams where I couldn't stop in time because I had to apply so much pressure on the pedal. Back then I did not know that aspect had no affect on the actual stopping power of the car.

I'm going to give them another week or so and see how much I like them then. I do have to break (pun intended) them in still and maybe I'll get used to them. I get into a groove of how things are and I like to stay there...so I'm change resistant.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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I have an 08 is250 with 10k, just got of the phone with lexus and they said, yes they will do it for free depending on how much pads you have left. Also, they said that the low dust brake pads they are replacing with will be a lower performance pad, but it will have less dust and also last longer.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chummer
I have an 08 is250 with 10k, just got of the phone with lexus and they said, yes they will do it for free depending on how much pads you have left. Also, they said that the low dust brake pads they are replacing with will be a lower performance pad, but it will have less dust and also last longer.

The replacement pads will provide -exactly- the same stopping distance as the high-dust pads do. Changing your pads doesn't change your stopping distance.

You might not want to use them at a racetrack, but I doubt that's relevant to 99% of owners.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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I had 36K on my 06 IS and told my dealer about the TSIB...which they were already aware of. Told them I was tired of the excessive brake dust on my wheels and they replaced them for free. The dust was very annoying and now with the new pads I don't have to clean my wheels as often.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Well, I guess I'm taking my car to lexus when I get back on land.
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