Notices
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)

Is this a fair deal ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 29, 2020 | 09:02 PM
  #1  
supraken's Avatar
supraken
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default Is this a good deal ?

Looking at a '94 SC300 5MT with about 105k miles. 2 owners, with a minor accident on the carfax to the rear. Overall good condition in and out, inside is pretty clean. Exterior has some nicks and touchups, nothing major. Front bumper and trunk lid is from another car, but owner has original. Front bumper was due to original being rough, and trunk lid due to owner wanting a spoiler but not wanting to drill holes in original.

Car is slightly lowered and on Supra wheels. Maintenance history seems to be good and service records are availalble. Timing belt, LCA, engine mount, gauge cluster, AC panel, have all been done within the last 2 years.

Tires are good on tread but they are 9 years old with no dry rot, should probably still be replaced.

We started at $9500, and currently at $7800. What's a good price for this car ??

Last edited by supraken; Jul 30, 2020 at 10:58 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 07:50 AM
  #2  
nickj718's Avatar
nickj718
Pole Position
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 317
Likes: 121
From: Illinois
Default

Exterior and Interior color?
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 08:05 AM
  #3  
supraken's Avatar
supraken
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by nickj718
Exterior and Interior color?
White on tan
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 12:13 PM
  #4  
gerrb's Avatar
gerrb
Super Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 6,148
Likes: 468
From: A Mile Ahead of You
Default

It will be nice to post pictures in and out so people can at least gauge what they see (at least by pictures) . At $7800 seems pricey to me but what do I know about these cars .
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:17 PM
  #5  
supraken's Avatar
supraken
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Let me know if the pics work. What's a good counter for this ?





Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:56 PM
  #6  
Zerodrag's Avatar
Zerodrag
Pole Position
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 323
Likes: 28
From: CA
Default

That's not a good place to have a dent, is what i know. Maybe you can still pop it out to some extent though.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:24 PM
  #7  
- V -'s Avatar
- V -
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 887
Likes: 183
From: FL
Default

is the dent the whole reason for the accident? is it factory 5speed or converted?
by Florida standards, even at 7800 that's a high price for a 26 year old car. In FL something like that would go for 6k-7k at most. I suggest looking around to see what similar condition automatic cars are going for in your area and then see how much more this seller is asking for. Then ask yourself if the manual transmission is wroth the extra $$ to you.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2020 | 10:35 PM
  #8  
supraken's Avatar
supraken
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by - V -
is the dent the whole reason for the accident? is it factory 5speed or converted?
by Florida standards, even at 7800 that's a high price for a 26 year old car. In FL something like that would go for 6k-7k at most. I suggest looking around to see what similar condition automatic cars are going for in your area and then see how much more this seller is asking for. Then ask yourself if the manual transmission is wroth the extra $$ to you.
It's a factory manual which is what it has going for me. I figured it would add a premium to the price like a lot of the other 90s JDM cars. I know the W58 isn't exactly desirable but no plans to do big boost or anything, so this feels a bit more 'robust' to me.

Not sure about the accident, it was before the owner so he doesn't know. I suspect the rear bumper might've been replaced, but the dent in the rear quarter panel never got fixed. I think PDR can take out most of it, but not the creases.

I think if I were to look for automatics, I would stick with 97+. I actually passed up on a very clean 98 last year, listed for $6k in my area.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2020 | 07:24 AM
  #9  
t2d2's Avatar
t2d2
Lead Lap
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,770
Likes: 271
Default

The interior is in very good shape, although the steering wheel has been swapped, so who knows if other stuff was worn and replaced. At any rate, that shows care was put into the car, which is always good.

The mileage is very low, and a factory 5spd always commands a premium unless you score a lucky find, so the price probably isn't unreasonable. My twice-wrecked, gutted interior, 240k mi '95 M/T was worth ~$4k, simply because they're desirable and so hard to find in most areas. If I was looking for a nice example (quarter panel damage aside), the one you're looking at seems like it should be worth twice as much.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2020 | 08:36 AM
  #10  
scsexy's Avatar
scsexy
Advanced
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 593
Likes: 76
From: Denver, Colorado
Default

IF you want a really clean one its a good enough deal. i'd try to get it down to 7k. Inspect the ball joins and lower control arms, look for cracking on the rubber. you may be able to find a flaw and talk them down a bit more.

I paid 1500 for a blown engine 5 speed car in about the same exterior shape but the inside wasnt as nice as yours and it had 150k on the clock. I now have 10k in it and it has 525 rear wheel horsepower. =)
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2020 | 10:06 AM
  #11  
supraken's Avatar
supraken
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by scsexy
IF you want a really clean one its a good enough deal. i'd try to get it down to 7k. Inspect the ball joins and lower control arms, look for cracking on the rubber. you may be able to find a flaw and talk them down a bit more.

I paid 1500 for a blown engine 5 speed car in about the same exterior shape but the inside wasnt as nice as yours and it had 150k on the clock. I now have 10k in it and it has 525 rear wheel horsepower. =)
Thanks guys

Are you still on the W58 tranny ? I started doing some research and I thought general consensus is that it's good for 300who or so only ?

I don't have big plans for the car, do want to boost it for a bit more grunt (300-350whp range) but not looking to do anything crazy
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2020 | 04:19 PM
  #12  
Helieng's Avatar
Helieng
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 19
Likes: 12
From: Victoria
Default

Looks like the door hinge is shot. Open the door and then try to lift it in an up and down motion. There should be no play at all in the bearings. The fixed link bushes are most likely worn out as well, main reason the front of the door is hitting the back of the fender.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2020 | 04:48 PM
  #13  
scsexy's Avatar
scsexy
Advanced
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 593
Likes: 76
From: Denver, Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by supraken
Thanks guys

Are you still on the W58 tranny ? I started doing some research and I thought general consensus is that it's good for 300who or so only ?

I don't have big plans for the car, do want to boost it for a bit more grunt (300-350whp range) but not looking to do anything crazy
Honeslty the w58 held like 400-450 horsepower for over 2 years and i killed it launching at the drag strip at 6500 rpms I now have an r154 with marlin crawler internals. if you keep your open diff you wont kill the w58 because u just break traction on the 1 tire.

Last edited by scsexy; Aug 5, 2020 at 04:52 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2020 | 02:11 PM
  #14  
Barryo56's Avatar
Barryo56
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: MA
Default

Hey guys, I'm the owner of the car and in addition to the work Ken described the following work has been done in the last approx.3,000 miles;
-New radiator and all new hoses;
-Timing belt, cam seals, spark plugs and wires, vacuum hoses;
-New hood and trunk struts;
-Lower control arms replaces;
-Shocks and springs;
-Brake pads, rotors,(cross drilled and slotted), braided brake lines with speed bleeders;
-Transmission mount, differential mount, guibo joint, half shafts, main drive shaft totally rebuilt with new joints and center bearing;
-Dash cluster, heater control and radio screens rebuilt by Tanin;
-Door hinge on the passengers side with the scrap is fine, it needed to be adjusted;
-New clutch, (prior owner at Lexus dealer less than 10,000 miles ago).

Thats all I can think of right now other than all books and papers from new, complete service records from Lexus prior to my ownership and I have the original steering wheel and airbag in perfect shape, as well as the coil springs, bumper and trunk lid.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2020 | 02:35 PM
  #15  
TitanG545's Avatar
TitanG545
Pit Crew
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 168
Likes: 26
From: VA
Default

Man that interior looks nice.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:31 PM.