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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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its pretty straight forward and has been for a while.. the only thing that is in talks is a sniffer on emissions. it can also vary by county.

For OBDII you can have 1 monitor not ready (ie turn of secondary o2 if you remove the cat if you don't want a defouler). just so you are aware.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tptpete
its pretty straight forward and has been for a while.. the only thing that is in talks is a sniffer on emissions. it can also vary by county.

For OBDII you can have 1 monitor not ready (ie turn of secondary o2 if you remove the cat if you don't want a defouler). just so you are aware.
To be clear, I did a swap and complete rebuild on my 96. I went to get it inspected but since it's a 96, they always try to hook up the DLC rather than just do a walk around. I assumed the car being 20 yrs made a difference. I guess I was wrong. At dmv I explained it was a show car that I hardly drive, no luck. I considered registering it in FL but came up with a better plan. Wish me luck, lol.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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I will agree 96 was the year they started with obd2.

My SC is obd1 but I keep it registered in Florida because I dont want them to drive it for testing, most likely it would pass from me putting 2 high flow cats in.

the best thing to do is if you live in a state with emissions, get a obd1 car or register it in a none emissions state.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 03:17 PM
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I will agree 96 was the year they started with obd2.

My SC is obd1 but I keep it registered in Florida because I dont want them to drive it for testing, most likely it would pass from me putting 2 high flow cats in.

the best thing to do is if you live in a state with emissions, get a obd1 car or register it in a none emissions state.
What's the deal with th e sniffer. Is that the long nozzle they insert into ur tail pipe? If so, maybe I can pass by adjusting my AFR and turning the boost real low. I'm using 18 lbs of boost.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 11:33 PM
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going on a limb here ..

There are true emission codes and indirect emission codes. One of the indirect emission code is related to auto trans is its inability to go into overdrive lockup mode.

I hear about getting a CEL after the swap but what are the codes? Maybe it does not matter as once the light is on, you want pass inspection.


As far as the long tube in the exhaust during inspection, those give real emission values at at idle and at 2500 rpm.

The other option is to wait till the car becomes classic.

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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 05:40 AM
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NY isn't using a sniffer.

Correct, must be over 25 years old before they will ignore the ODBII requirements.

How do you register a car in florida? know somebody or can you just get a PO Box? Any issue with insurance since you live and drive in another state so they will questions tickets/accidents when they are all in 1 area.

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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 06:12 AM
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going on a limb here ..

There are true emission codes and indirect emission codes. One of the indirect emission code is related to auto trans is its inability to go into overdrive lockup mode.

I hear about getting a CEL after the swap but what are the codes? Maybe it does not matter as once the light is on, you want pass inspection.


As far as the long tube in the exhaust during inspection, those give real emission values at at idle and at 2500 rpm.

The other option is to wait till the car becomes classic.

Salim
Very insightful info. Looks like I was being a jerk n just trying to get around the fact that it won't be a classic for 5 more yrs.
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 06:31 AM
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92-95 is OBD1. NO EMISSIONS TESTING IN NY FOR OBD1 VEHICLES!!
The sniffer test was taken away as of 2012 in NY state. Now there is ONLY a visual inspection for emissions equipment and safety.

All vehicles in NY 96+ must pass a plug in OBD2 emissions test with no more than two missing monitors.

Buy a OBD1 car and you'll have it easy

I ran into your issue with my 350Z. Ended up just taking it off the road entirely as a track toy.

Oh and if you're referencing Cali's CARB, no NY has not adopted it.
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by INTIMAZY
92-95 is OBD1. NO EMISSIONS TESTING IN NY FOR OBD1 VEHICLES!!
The sniffer test was taken away as of 2012 in NY state. Now there is ONLY a visual inspection for emissions equipment and safety.

All vehicles in NY 96+ must pass a plug in OBD2 emissions test with no more than two missing monitors.

Buy a OBD1 car and you'll have it easy

I ran into your issue with my 350Z. Ended up just taking it off the road entirely as a track toy.

Oh and if you're referencing Cali's CARB, no NY has not adopted it.
Thanks and sorry about the 350. As for NY adopting CA state emissions laws, this was info passed to me from an instructor during automotive classes last year.
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Some more related/unrelated information (nothing to do with NY or CA)

Here in Texas we have had 'safety inspection' for many year, which covers, tire-tread depth, braking, turn signals, brake light check, wipers, seat belts, horn, head/tail lights and headlight level. Then they added opacity level check of glass all around.

Then as pollution became big problem, county by county added emission testing. For OBDII vehicles the testing places connect to the port, and for others, they do the probe and measure at 2 speeds.Gas cap is also tested and visually the inspector looks for modifications that can impact emissions.

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Yeah there is 1 county in NC and a few in VA that do that type of thing, county by county. If it happened here I would change counties haha or find a friend who lives in another county.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by salimshah
Some more related/unrelated information (nothing to do with NY or CA)

Here in Texas we have had 'safety inspection' for many year, which covers, tire-tread depth, braking, turn signals, brake light check, wipers, seat belts, horn, head/tail lights and headlight level. Then they added opacity level check of glass all around.

Then as pollution became big problem, county by county added emission testing. For OBDII vehicles the testing places connect to the port, and for others, they do the probe and measure at 2 speeds.Gas cap is also tested and visually the inspector looks for modifications that can impact emissions.

Salim
last time I checked they don't do emissions for 25 or older? by buddy doesn't have to do emissions in Fort Worth
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 07:41 PM
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NJ just passed a law starting in May any car 95 and under wont have to go thru any type of inspection/emissions. I know you said you did a swap.. what was the reason why your car didnt or wont pass emissions? can you get a o2 sim or maybe a test pipe to pass?
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 08:43 PM
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that's good news, colorado makes you do emissions from 1973 and up, stupid really
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