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Old May 5, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lookEVO
Sounds like you got hosed and someone did a ****ty job rebuilding your tranny.
What is my transmission NOT doing that it should? Everyone keeps saying there's "problems" but no one can seem to quantify what exactly that means? I mean, what SHOULD the transmission be doing that it isn't. This is getting very frustrating because it's like pulling teeth to get any specific answers. It seems to be driving like it used to and I thought the Lextreme TC would have kicked up the torque a notch in the low end, but it just doesn't have much oomph. I['m not expecting the car to do burnouts, but spinning the tires would be nice. Maybe I'm just expecting too much from this car. When I think of power, I'm thinking what my Taurus SHO used to do which is night and day from what this car does.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Is this the correct wire? I'm assuming it is, it seems to be in the right location and it's next to a light blue wire. Maybe this pic will help someone else find it.Lextreme Torque Converter review-2012-05-05-14.27.38.jpg
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Old May 5, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Sorry, forgot the circle! Lextreme Torque Converter review-2012-05-05-14.27.38.jpg
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Old May 6, 2012 | 05:35 AM
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Sorry to be so vague, but your description of the cars behavior is vague as well. I can't tell what the car is doing from your description, I just know that the words "surge" and "lurch" are not words you want to hear when referring to a cars drivability. Acceleration should be "smooth", and "consistent" throughout the RPM range.

You said: So far, my car seems to lurch off the line.

What exactly does that mean? Because to me it sounds like slipping/shuddering clutch engagement. Or maybe you describe a strong burst of acceleration as "lurching" and everything is fine...Tough to say without a more accurate description of symptoms ya know?

Then you said: 1st gear still surges to redline, but it is still accelerating at a very even keel.

What the heck does this mean?!

Maybe nothing is wrong with your car and it's just the way you describe normal tranny operation, I don't know.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by lookEVO
Sounds like you got hosed and someone did a ****ty job rebuilding your tranny.
Yes sounds like an internal trans issue such as a torn o ring or a torn/chipped valve body gasket allowing pressure to bleed off thus not giving proper line pressure so I would verify the line pressure 1st
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Old May 6, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Looks like the right wire. This post says it's next to the light blue torque converter lockup wire so it appears you've got it.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stockhatch
Sorry to be so vague, but your description of the cars behavior is vague as well. I can't tell what the car is doing from your description, I just know that the words "surge" and "lurch" are not words you want to hear when referring to a cars drivability. Acceleration should be "smooth", and "consistent" throughout the RPM range.

You said: So far, my car seems to lurch off the line.

What exactly does that mean? Because to me it sounds like slipping/shuddering clutch engagement. Or maybe you describe a strong burst of acceleration as "lurching" and everything is fine...Tough to say without a more accurate description of symptoms ya know?

Then you said: 1st gear still surges to redline, but it is still accelerating at a very even keel.

What the heck does this mean?!

Maybe nothing is wrong with your car and it's just the way you describe normal tranny operation, I don't know.
I guess what I would say is that on occasion I have a very strong burst of acceleration of the line and my 0-60 time is great. The next time I try it literally right after, it takes about 9 seconds to go 0-60. If I stop for a minute, then do a pull, it'll fly off the line with a sudden burst of power. It's just not consistent.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xspsi6
Yes sounds like an internal trans issue such as a torn o ring or a torn/chipped valve body gasket allowing pressure to bleed off thus not giving proper line pressure so I would verify the line pressure 1st
They wanted me to bring it back after two weeks. I'll ask them that. When I first brought it in, they thought that may have been the issue, but they checked it and it wasn't the issue and it was the forward clutch. They rebuilt it and I do notice a difference, it's just that the transmission behavior is inconsistent. Sometimes I'm able to do a 0-60 in six seconds flat. The next time I try it, literally right afterwards, it will be 9-10 seconds. Sometimes it will have a sudden burst of power if I've sat for a minute in idle. If I try to do it again, it won't do it. It's like every other time it will behave sluggish.
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Maybe nothing is wrong. I just did a stop-light to stop-light with a 2000's era Firebird and beat it off the line until it toasted me after about 60MPH, but I expected to lose.
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well with a torque converter mod you wont notice anything at all if your at idle and you stomp on the gas. what you need to do is stand on the brakes and put enough gas so that the car will try to roll forward and then let go of the brakes and stand on the gas.

if you idle and then stomp on the gas you would accelerate from a stop the same no matter what the stall speed or what TQ you had. but if you did like i described then the higher stall TQ will have an advantege
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A converter's "flash" speed will make a difference if you just mat the pedal off idle. In fact, it was the best way to launch my Grand Marquis (9.9 @ 73 in the 1/8th which compares well against any SC) Power braking produced a lower 60ft every time.

Until this wire is cut the car's ECU is fighting power production in first gear. It is working to give you "Lexus" comfort and it does so by wasting power the engine produces. As enthusiasts we want this power back and luckily it's easy to do. A higher stall converter might mask this power loss but it does nothing to counteract the ECU's attempt to ditch power by lowering line pressure.
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Originally Posted by MooJohn
A converter's "flash" speed will make a difference if you just mat the pedal off idle. In fact, it was the best way to launch my Grand Marquis (9.9 @ 73 in the 1/8th which compares well against any SC) Power braking produced a lower 60ft every time.

Until this wire is cut the car's ECU is fighting power production in first gear. It is working to give you "Lexus" comfort and it does so by wasting power the engine produces. As enthusiasts we want this power back and luckily it's easy to do. A higher stall converter might mask this power loss but it does nothing to counteract the ECU's attempt to ditch power by lowering line pressure.
The wire has been cut for a while. I've tried power braking and the result is that the car is just plain inconsistent. It will take off like a bat out of hell and the next time I try it a minute later, it's a 10 second 0-60 time. It's almost like it needs time to build up pressure. I've tried doing a few stoplight races and I pretty much always win off the line against much faster cars, although in the cases of Firebirds, Corvettes, etc I always lose in the end of course. It's a bit difficult to say what's going on. I have an appointment to drop my car back off at the tranny shop to see what's wrong. It does seem like it's getting better, almost like the ECU needed retrained.
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