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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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ok... has anyone else noticed that the Scs tend to brake lose in oversteer if you enter a turn too fast and apply the brakes?

like you start going into the turn and realize that your going to fast
sso you tr to slow down with the brake and that **** jsut comes out but yeah......i was jsut wondering if anyone else has any experience with this
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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I've had it happen a few times while approaching some on or off exit ramps. On the Northern STate Parkway here on Long Island, you'll be going the speed of traffic in the right lane (70mph) and see your exit, that thing gives you literally 50 feet to slow down before it pulls a tight 270 degree hairpin on you, so sometimes its difficult to get under 40mph to take that ramp. It kicks out a little, but if you feel the back end coming loose, stop applying the brakes. That always corrects it immediately for me.

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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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thats how most rear wheel drive cars are, and the sc being a tank doesnt make it any better
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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i had supra tt wheels in the rear w/ bald tires for a day. It happened to me, but i dont get it that much w/ the regular stock wheels.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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The tail was probably about to come around anyways, just happened that the brakes were applied at the same time. Most cars come with not all that much braking power at the rear to prevent this from happening.
I do know that the stock SC has such a soft rear suspension that the suspension can actually bottom out in a hard corner and bring out the tail in a hurry!
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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It also has to do with weight transfer. You're unweighting the rear mid turn.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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yeah, it has definately happened to me coming around some interstate ramps. I blamed it on myself though because I was hauling about 55 around this ramp and i came up quick on a car so I braked and back end started to slide out, but all was good when I let off the brakes and gave a small wheel correction. Unexpected though
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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as someone already mentioned, perfectly normal for a RWD car...

search for friction circle driving school
for all the explanation you would ever need...

certain rear wheel drive cars with heavy rear bias even do something crazier called "throttle lift oversteer" Porsches and Vipers are probably two of the worst at this - when hard into a corner, in either car, you don't want to lift the throttle, else you might find yourself in a bad oversteer condition...
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsuguy
as someone already mentioned, perfectly normal for a RWD car...
I think people are just sharing their experiences with it at this point...
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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2-way locking diff will cure all your problems
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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yeah, turn into corner, brake, rear comes out, pin it.... correct oversteer while pinning it, and call it a drift.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by VinnyQH
yeah, turn into corner, brake, rear comes out, pin it.... correct oversteer while pinning it, and call it a drift.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by slo86
2-way locking diff will cure all your problems
you should know seeing how you almost curbed my car lol.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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that's how I got into an accident on a FWD. As mkorsu said it's all about weight transfer. It is typically easier to have happen on a RWD car but it's possible on any car.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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thats how i wrecked my sc300 ,braking on a corner at 45 because of an idoit stopping to switch lanes in front of me
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