You're welcome. The only time I ever killed the battery through error, was in accidently using ACC mode once when doing the initial configuration of setting. I meant to be in Ready mode, but forgot to press the brake. 20 minutes later, the battery was dead.
That was with wheel and front seat heaters on auto as well as HVAC on auto, which was probably around 50 amps draw. That is probably the configuration most people would have it on as well.
As discussed above, the "Battery Charging" message comes on because our RX's computer system, among other things, temporarily disables the automatic engine start-stop feature when it senses the battery voltage is too low. I guess many of us want to permanently disable this annoying feature because it jerks the vehicle when it turns the engine back on and it severely affects the longevity of the starter. I just found out that EPA recently passed legislation that puts the death knell on this gimmicky feature, as described in this video link:
Now, under the new legislation, can we demand our dealership disable this annoying feature for good, without worrying about warranty issues? Just sampling opinions before we act collectively in voicing our firm demand.
The heated seats in our fifth gen RX are great during this freezing winter because they come on strong and toast our buns very quickly. However, I often find them too intense even when I set them on low. Do you share the same feeling? Since heated seats are electrically heated, they draw lots of electrical power and may drain our weak batteries more quickly. Do heated seats work if you keep your vehicle in accessory mode when the engine is off? I never tried. Anyway, I think this will aggregate dead battery issues. Just sounding off and seeking advice!
You can adjust the seat temperature even further from the three settings by going to Lexus settings vehicle customization and climate. There is two setting for front driver seat and passenger seat to either increase or decrease the temperature.
You can adjust the seat temperature even further from the three settings by going to Lexus settings vehicle customization and climate. There is two setting for front driver seat and passenger seat to either increase or decrease the temperature.
Thanks for your comments. I have been using those touch tabs at the bottom of the infotainment screen for adjusting heated seat settings; I didn't know there are further settings within the vehicle customization and climate screen. I will give it a try later when I go out.
Oh, just found out that I can even do the adjustments from the Lexus App remotely :-)
As discussed above, the "Battery Charging" message comes on because our RX's computer system, among other things, temporarily disables the automatic engine start-stop feature when it senses the battery voltage is too low. I guess many of us want to permanently disable this annoying feature because it jerks the vehicle when it turns the engine back on and it severely affects the longevity of the starter. I just found out that EPA recently passed legislation that puts the death knell on this gimmicky feature, as described in this video link:
Now, under the new legislation, can we demand our dealership disable this annoying feature for good, without worrying about warranty issues? Just sampling opinions before we act collectively in voicing our firm demand.
Stop/Start was never federally mandated. I actually like the feature, though I wish we could turn it off or on and have it be retentive.
You are 100% correct. Auto stop/start was never federally mandated, and I believe I never said it was :-). Indeed, this is what my web search says:
"Auto start-stop is not federally mandated.
While it became standard in many vehicles, its presence was driven by incentives rather than a legal requirement:
Environmental Credits: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) previously offered "off-cycle credits" to automakers that included the feature. These credits helped manufacturers meet strict federal fuel economy and greenhouse gas emission standards.
Recent Changes: In February 2026, the EPA finalized a rule that eliminated these credits. Without these regulatory incentives, many industry experts expect automakers to stop including the feature as a standard, non-permanent setting.
Manufacturer Choice: Automakers have always had the choice to include the technology; they did so primarily to lower their fleet-wide emission averages on paper.
Since it was never a direct mandate, you can still find aftermarket start-stop eliminators to permanently disable it, though most cars only allow you to turn it off for the duration of a single drive."
My point above is whether, in light of EPA's recent ruling, we can demand the dealer to permanent disable this supposedly gas-savings feature, without any concern about warranty voiding issues. Your thought?
Also, based on another web search, more than 65% of cars made in the past few years have this feature, and most people do not want it.
My point above is whether, in light of EPA's recent ruling, we can demand the dealer to permanent disable this supposedly gas-savings feature, without any concern about warranty voiding issues. Your thought?
I see no reason why Lexus would put any effort into removing a feature from existing vehicles.
Considering that stop/start improves fuel economy and many people still care about fuel economy, i doubt they will stop using it in the future.
As you mentioned, you can buy a disable device. I would assume that those who passionately hate the feature would have bought the device.
I see no reason why Lexus would put any effort into removing a feature from existing vehicles.
Considering that stop/start improves fuel economy and many people still care about fuel economy, i doubt they will stop using it in the future.
As you mentioned, you can buy a disable device. I would assume that those who passionately hate the feature would have bought the device.
From an economics point of view, your answer is definitely the correct one for Lexus. But from what I have learned, this feature results in minimal gas savings, while doing significant harm to the starter motor (maybe I should add the word "potential" before "harm" to be more diplomatic). Cynically speaking, this benefits Lexus and/or any auto mechanic :-)
The fuel savings depends on how much time you spend stopped while the engine is running. SAE estimates 7-26% or a 1.5 to 5.5 mpg hit for a vehicle that gets 22 like the RX350.
As for starter life, my understanding is that vehicles with this system have starters that are designed for a 5-10x greater cycle usage than those without.
The fuel savings depends on how much time you spend stopped while the engine is running. SAE estimates 7-26% or a 1.5 to 5.5 mpg hit for a vehicle that gets 22 like the RX350.
As for starter life, my understanding is that vehicles with this system have starters that are designed for a 5-10x greater cycle usage than those without.
I appreciate your views and clarifications! But the web frequently seems to come up with pros and cons, which we should take into consideration and engage in further research. Peace!
Engineering Explained tested the benefits of start/stop, which in Europe was instituted to reduce EMISSIONS, not MPG.
The Cliffs Notes version of the video: Having the engine off for more than 7 seconds will save some gasoline. Some traffic light controlled intersections in our neighborhood make cross traffic wait over TWO MINUTES.
Stop/Start entails controls to maintain hydraulic pressures in automatic trans missions, and increased robustness of starters.