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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 05:25 PM
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Default Front Suspension Nose-Dive During Braking

I have a question for all RX350 and RX350h owners.
Do all RX350 vehicles exhibit a nose-dive at the end of bringing the vehicle to a stop ?

For what it's worth, I am not a heavy brake pedal person.
Picked up this RX350h July of 2023. At that time I didn't notice too much nose-dive at the end of bringing the vehicle to a stop.
Over the last 6 months I have noticed more pronounced nose-dive at the end of bringing the vehicle to a stop.
Service Writer says all RX350h exhibit a nose-dive at the end of bringing the vehicle to a stop.

Is this the same experience for everyone else ?
Appreciate all your feedback.
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 06:47 PM
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Anytime you brake any car the nose goes down. Physics 101,
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 07:41 PM
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I agree all cars to this to some extent. I've been driving since 1970 and I am very familiar with the physics that cause the "nose-dive".
My question to the group is; Do all of your RX350 vehicles exhibit a nose-dive at the end of bringing the vehicle to a stop.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 03:42 AM
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Have not noticed that on my 2024 RX350. Quit flat throughout the braking/stopping process.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DEL92
I agree all cars to this to some extent. I've been driving since 1970 and I am very familiar with the physics that cause the "nose-dive".
My question to the group is; Do all of your RX350 vehicles exhibit a nose-dive at the end of bringing the vehicle to a stop.
I've been driving since 1968 and my RX doesn't behave any differently than the dozens of cars, trucks and SUVs I've owned over the years.
After driving today and trying to make a " nose dive" I'd say that when putting enough force to push one forward in the seat the car stays flat and just stops with no drop in front. Maybe it's the F Sport suspension.

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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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I spent a week in an RX350h loaner. It had a lot more brake dive than the RX450h+ we own, but less than what our 2013 RX350 had. I didn't find it to have an unusual amount of dive.

Brake dive is a product of suspension geometry, suspension travel, spring rate, damping, and center of gravity. The RX450h+ seems to have less suspension travel than the 350h and has a lower center of gravity than other RXs, due to the large traction battery.

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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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I appreciate the comparison and feedback. being a Lexus product, I would like to think the suspension geometry of the RX350h would be better tuned,
Cheers, DEL.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DEL92
I appreciate the comparison and feedback. being a Lexus product, I would like to think the suspension geometry of the RX350h would be better tuned,
Cheers, DEL.
Does the hybrid weigh more than the standard RX? Is there any customization of ride like I have on my F Sport.?
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dvscycles
Does the hybrid weigh more than the standard RX? Is there any customization of ride like I have on my F Sport.?
ECO, Normal and Sport just like the others. You may have Sport+ with different dampers on the FSport.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
ECO, Normal and Sport just like the others. You may have Sport+ with different dampers on the FSport.
I've not messed with mine yet since it handles really great in Normal mode.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dvscycles
I've not messed with mine yet since it handles really great in Normal mode.
It's more about throttle response. Try SPORT. In my ES, it makes a huge difference. Not so much in our RX probably because it's a hybrid.
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Old Oct 1, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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I can recall watching kirk kreifels you tube video when they got the first drive of RX prior to release in vineyard. He purposely showed how on F-sport with the dampers there was little nose dive due to computer adjusting the dampers in suspension. Lexus probably did this on F-sport due to huge brakes as well on F-sport. If I really slam on brakes it will dive a bit not normal breaking it doesn't dive down at all. AVS works well as unlike the Germans it isn't as abrupt or rough, so you get the best of both worlds. Even normal driving it really smooths out the ride very well.
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Old Oct 1, 2024 | 03:23 PM
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Coming from a 2016 BMW X5 which has much firmer suspension to a 24 Rx350h I did not notice any perceptible nose dive during the couple times where I would say I applied moderate pressure to the brakes. Cornering is of course much more body lean when compared to BMW but that is to be expected.
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Old Oct 4, 2024 | 09:31 AM
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No nose dive but I remember some 1950s car where you could get two or three nose dives out of one stop, the car just kept bobbing. That was luxury I guess.
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