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ANY , I mean ANY vehicle can be stolen. The issue we currently have in Canada is that there are large incentives for thieves to steal the cars and nearly no consequences if they are caught. I don't think this is only a manufacturer issue, rather a failure of our justice system.
The latest trend in Ontario is car jacking. Why bother breaking in when they can just forcefully take it without any consequences.
One way OEMs could prevent this is to use the Data communications module to prevent stolen vehicles from being driven, once reported stolen by police. Similar to iphones.
IMHO, “Service Advisor” is a distorted title for service salesman. Their expertise is to trap you into additional maintenance expenses. A good service advisor generates revenue.
I was assured the dealer can’t cut a key for the 23/24 models. They have no access and are locked into a system. They must first place a request at corporate and wait for a code to be entered for that vin number. Creating a key via ODB port is questionable, or I’ve been misled.
The link you posted says the car was stolen from a lot with no security or cameras. It could have been towed away. Nobody knows how the car was stolen.
Oh one more thing, the picture with the broken window. You know the service advisor that works at Ken Shaw.
Ken Shaw was the dealer in your CBC link. They are the one that diagnosed the problem to a $20,000 wire harness. They are the ones that blamed the installation of the aftermarket device. They are the one that voided his warrantee.
This from the article I linked below. “and at least one other Toyota dealer — believe was caused not by the installation of the aftermarket alarm, but by a production error during manufacture. He was told electronic control unit (ECU) pins (not part of the wiring harness) were loose or damaged. These pins were fixed at the second dealership.” The car was problem free when the pins were fixed.
this service advisor I am talking about happens to be a good friend of mine - he has no reason to lie. When my 21’RX was stolen he actually told me to not upgrade to the 2023 RX as they have been stolen too but were advised to not “scare customers”.
It’s very unlikely they bring a tow for your vehicle. Breaking your window or your lock then creating a new key fob is more likely and what prob occurred. Don’t know where you heard about the key cutting thing - my friend was impatient for his 350h and that he got only 1 key so he just ordered a blank key off of eBay and had a locksmith pair it with his car. No special lockout from Lexus was there or else some portable locksmith from Toronto wouldn’t be able to pair them.
Even this poor guy in the link above said he saw “broken glass” and his car gone. I’m sure it was the same situation in the photo I posted since the can bus wires are fixed - the only way to access the car now is the old methods.
IGLA could have prevented all of this btw😂🤭!!! IGLA FTW!
I went above and beyond by installing a Compustar immobilizer (fob style), a Starline i96 immobilizer (PIN style), and TAG tracking device on my RX.
I would recommend to get Starline instead of IGLA as it has more security features, come with free fob (if you want to use fob instead of PIN) and app.
I went above and beyond by installing a Compustar immobilizer (fob style), a Starline i96 immobilizer (PIN style), and TAG tracking device on my RX.
I would recommend to get Starline instead of IGLA as it has more security features, come with free fob (if you want to use fob instead of PIN) and app.
yea the starline has more features on the app like phone notification/call if i am not mistaken and live updates but IGLA also has the keyfobs if you dont wanna use pincode or even app for your smartphone via bluetooth. i wasn't able to decide on TAG my insurance essentially forced it on us 😂 at least we didn't have to pay it - i know some people that were told by their insurance to pay for the device itself!
yea the starline has more features on the app like phone notification/call if i am not mistaken and live updates but IGLA also has the keyfobs if you dont wanna use pincode or even app for your smartphone via bluetooth. i wasn't able to decide on TAG my insurance essentially forced it on us 😂 at least we didn't have to pay it - i know some people that were told by their insurance to pay for the device itself!
IGLA is $400 plus tax more locally because it is one of the recommended ones by insurance. But I found out you don’t have to go with the recommended ones.
Starline also have the following features and key fob is included in the price.
CAN-BUS blocking (uses the vehicle's CAN-BUS based computer system to prevent the engine from starting, or shuts it down)
Analogue blocking (a secondary high security way to immobilize the vehicle), using a standard relay, or one of Starline's high security digital relays with Bluetooth technology.
OBD II port blocking (this functionality is built-in to the i96 CAN, and will stop a thief from using your vehicle's diagnostic port to program a new key, or over ride any security features).
The Starline i96 CAN can also be disarmed in a number of different ways, such as:
Secure PIN-CODE using factory (OEM) buttons
Bluetooth Key Tag proximity disarm, or manual disarm by pressing the disarm button (the i96 CAN ECO comes with 1 x BT-TAG)
Smartphone proximity disarm (uses the Bluetooth from your smartphone, and the Starline app, to disarm when the phone comes within range)
I went above and beyond by installing a Compustar immobilizer (fob style), a Starline i96 immobilizer (PIN style), and TAG tracking device on my RX.
I would recommend to get Starline instead of IGLA as it has more security features, come with free fob (if you want to use fob instead of PIN) and app.
Locally I was informed that Compustar is not currently compatible and the install (well known in the area) doesn't want to risk it. What did you end up with and are you using just the alarm or both the alarm and remote start?
I don't know how Tech Stream programs keys, but if this is done through the OBD port without the original key I'm concerned. I was lead to believe 23/24 can't be manipulated to cut a key. I wish Toyota would give us a clear answer, everything is hush hush with them. I'm back at considering putting in an anti theft device.
I don't know how Tech Stream programs keys, but if this is done through the OBD port without the original key I'm concerned. I was lead to believe 23/24 can't be manipulated to cut a key. I wish Toyota would give us a clear answer, everything is hush hush with them. I'm back at considering putting in an anti theft device.
Reading a writeup on TechStream use from a couple years ago, admittedly for a Prius rather than a Lexus, it sounds like using TechStream required a current working fob. It does involve connecting to the OBD2 port, but you end up holding the current working one near the start button, then remove it and bring in the new item to be paired and hold that one next to the start button.
(you're telling the car you have a new fob to pair, then use the existing working fob followed by the new one)
I do remember someone posting they lost their only key. The only way they could program a new key was to kill the old one in the system then set up a new key. Could have been for security could have been because there was no key available to program a new key.
Locally I was informed that Compustar is not currently compatible and the install (well known in the area) doesn't want to risk it. What did you end up with and are you using just the alarm or both the alarm and remote start?
my Compustar was actually installed at a local Lexus dealership. It is Compustar Pro R5
my Compustar was actually installed at a local Lexus dealership. It is Compustar Pro R5
Interesting... How do you like it? Also, what year of vehicle do you have? Even Compustar's website doesn't show compatibility. I was looking at the Pro T13, not that should make a difference.
I got this in the mail today. Not bad for $50 USD; it'll slow them down if anything
Interesting... How do you like it? Also, what year of vehicle do you have? Even Compustar's website doesn't show compatibility. I was looking at the Pro T13, not that should make a difference.
I got this in the mail today. Not bad for $50 USD; it'll slow them down if anything
no complaint so far. It is working as intended. It comes with proximity sensor so it locks and unlocks automatically.
