Mark Levinson vs Standard Audio System
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From: Nebraska
To all the people here trying to justify that the sound of the 4RX is decent (standard or ML), just come to reality...it's plain awful. Even my wife said a couple of days ago that it was terrible, and that is from someone who has no sense of good audio. Just plain sad. It can be good because her '18 XC90 B&W sounds amazing and is bigger than my 4RX.
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Joined: Apr 2017
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From: Quebec, Canada
To all the people here trying to justify that the sound of the 4RX is decent (standard or ML), just come to reality...it's plain awful. Even my wife said a couple of days ago that it was terrible, and that is from someone who has no sense of good audio. Just plain sad. It can be good because her '18 XC90 B&W sounds amazing and is bigger than my 4RX.
Awful???? Your system is defective?
My ear can hear up to 22 KHz (which is damn good) and I find the sound very good! And the ML system is just a bit crisper, but not enough to justify the money.
And to me a good system is when you get no distortion when the volume is high. Which I did not detect up to a level I consider tolerable for long period listening.
Last edited by kitlz; Apr 24, 2018 at 11:00 AM.
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Joined: Dec 2002
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From: Nebraska
Awful???? Your system is defective?
My ear can hear up to 22 KHz (which is damn good) and I find the sound very good! And the ML system is just a bit crisper, but not enough to justify the money.
And to me a good system is when you get no distortion when the volume is high. Which I did not detect up to a level I consider tolerable for long period listening.
My ear can hear up to 22 KHz (which is damn good) and I find the sound very good! And the ML system is just a bit crisper, but not enough to justify the money.
And to me a good system is when you get no distortion when the volume is high. Which I did not detect up to a level I consider tolerable for long period listening.
Last edited by kitlz; Apr 24, 2018 at 11:03 AM.
Intermediate
Joined: Dec 2017
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From: Southern California
It will be interesting to see what Samsung does with ML: Samsung Electronics Completes Acquisition of HARMAN
On another note, it's a vehicle and you're not going to get audiophile levels of sound. We just enjoy ours for what it is, and do not expect much more.
On another note, it's a vehicle and you're not going to get audiophile levels of sound. We just enjoy ours for what it is, and do not expect much more.
Racer
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,404
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From: Texas
It will be interesting to see what Samsung does with ML: Samsung Electronics Completes Acquisition of HARMAN
On another note, it's a vehicle and you're not going to get audiophile levels of sound. We just enjoy ours for what it is, and do not expect much more.
On another note, it's a vehicle and you're not going to get audiophile levels of sound. We just enjoy ours for what it is, and do not expect much more.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Sep 2016
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From: AB
It looks like lot of folks think if a system has lot of earth shaking woomphs(sufb woofer), it is good. Low frequency does not define good music, it is by mid and high frequency.
When I got Audi SQ5 with B&O system, wife noticed it compared to the ML system on the RX-450h. If we want to listen to serious music we have a dedicated system at home. Just 2 channel stereo with a small sub woofer. For other multimedia needs we have 9.2 surround sound HTPC with 60" display.
When I got Audi SQ5 with B&O system, wife noticed it compared to the ML system on the RX-450h. If we want to listen to serious music we have a dedicated system at home. Just 2 channel stereo with a small sub woofer. For other multimedia needs we have 9.2 surround sound HTPC with 60" display.
Racer
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,404
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From: Texas
It looks like lot of folks think if a system has lot of earth shaking woomphs(sufb woofer), it is good. Low frequency does not define good music, it is by mid and high frequency.
When I got Audi SQ5 with B&O system, wife noticed it compared to the ML system on the RX-450h. If we want to listen to serious music we have a dedicated system at home. Just 2 channel stereo with a small sub woofer. For other multimedia needs we have 9.2 surround sound HTPC with 60" display.
When I got Audi SQ5 with B&O system, wife noticed it compared to the ML system on the RX-450h. If we want to listen to serious music we have a dedicated system at home. Just 2 channel stereo with a small sub woofer. For other multimedia needs we have 9.2 surround sound HTPC with 60" display.
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Joined: Jan 2010
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From: CA
I wasn't happy with the standard audio on my 2010 RX 350, so I got the ML system on the 2018 RX.
The ML system doesn't do much for me except when the car is sitting still. At highway speeds, the better
audio is only apparent with the volume turned up.
However, it is better than the standard system on my 2010 for all conditions.
The ML system doesn't do much for me except when the car is sitting still. At highway speeds, the better
audio is only apparent with the volume turned up.
However, it is better than the standard system on my 2010 for all conditions.
I have Note 8 as well and would like to know too. Bluetooth Audio on the RX with my phone is still pretty good to me though.
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Joined: Mar 2013
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From: IL
Why not just get a cheap flash drive? If you're referring to streaming, Bluetooth would not be the weak link.
Driver
Joined: May 2017
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From: NY
I want to achieve an eargasm with the ML system, otherwise what's the point for opting in for it?