Originally Posted by JDR76

Let me clarify. What I mean is that on the Tundra and Sequoia, there are two V8s to choose from. One is the 4.6 liter (shared with GX) and the other is the 5.7 liter (shared with the LX). Of those two, I would consider the 4.6 to be the lower equipment grade of the two V8 engine options.

I simply pointing out which of the two V8s offered in the Tundra and Sequoia is in the GX. I was not stating that the V8 is a lower grade than that of the RX.

Originally Posted by Quadro

It's simply a lower displacement option. 4.6L V8 is a primary engine used in a Land Cruiser 200 (the big one) sold in the Middle East and Australia so rest assured it's a very well built truck engine considering how Land Cruisers are used overseas.

Originally Posted by JDR76

We are discussing the Tundra and Sequoia because it was stated that the RX is more of a Toyota than the GX is.

Originally Posted by SW13GS

I'd just tell the neighbor to go stuff it LOL

Won't be long! C-section is scheduled for 2/20 but it could be any day!

Originally Posted by SW13GS

The ES and RX are very capable vehicles, they are very well built, smooth and quiet and refined...very good values. BUT...there is *something* that exists in the upper level Lexus vehicles that is missing from these cars. Some additional level of refinement, the way every control, door, etc is damped in just the right way, quality everywhere you touch. The way they glide down the road and never do anything in a harsh or an abrupt way. The RWD platform of the "better" cars has something to do with that, but its also something else. Unless you've owned or extensively driven a non-entry level Lexus model (I would consider entry level the CT, ES & RX...have not driven the new NX to get my feelings on it) its something you don't miss...but once you have you do miss it. It was especially clear to me when I got the GS after having gone to the ES for 10 years from the LS. Once I started living with the GS day to day I found that "Lexusness" again that I loved in the LS...but was lacking in my two ES sedans. Even in the IS you feel it. The GX's cheap in places interior detracts from it, but driving down the road its there in that vehicle too. Its not in the ES and RX to me...and certainly not the CT which I think is dreadful. I would buy an RX or ES without question even with that said, but your neighbor has a point.

Originally Posted by pamiboy

I was wondering if that "missing something" would be present in the higher level Toyotas such as Landcruisers / prados, etc. It is natural that bigger and heavier vehicles are more likely to feel plusher and refined ( OK please disregard commercial trucks ).