What is normal Braking technique?

To quote my last girlfriend, "I'm hard on cars and I'm hard on men" and she was soooo right. She married some guy who changed his name after the wedding. It used to be George; now it's Poor George.
Either here or on the SC430 forum, someone suggested this sequence when parking:
- foot brake depressed
- shift to Neutral
- engage parking brake
- release foot brake
- shift to Park
This sequence (minus the obvious safety checks) is a little different from that described by salimshah. I don't know which, if either, might be better, but I'm waiting to hear (read).
Either here or on the SC430 forum, someone suggested this sequence when parking:
- foot brake depressed
- shift to Neutral
- engage parking brake
- release foot brake
- shift to Park
This sequence (minus the obvious safety checks) is a little different from that described by salimshah. I don't know which, if either, might be better, but I'm waiting to hear (read).
well i'm a woman and i drive stick on a daily basis, and if i'm driving stick i always have my foot on the brake when releasing the p brake, but that's because there is no such thing as Park so if you don't have your foot on the brake then of course you will start rolling away.
but w/ the RX i don't really take that care of doing it unless i'm on a huge hill, which rarely ever happens. i mean Park is there for a reason, and generally i don't even have the P brake on if i'm parked on level surfaces wherever i go (home, work, supermarket, mall, etc).
but that's just me. i don't know if it's "normal" or not, but i agree w/ the majority of the others -- over time you won't care and it's not going to destroy the car. i'm pretty OCD over the car too, even after 4 1/2 years.
also, i agree w/ RXSF - if i'm parked on a hill i'll let the car roll forward or back slowly after putting in Park and then step on the P brake. that way there is no lurching or rolling when i disengage it.
but w/ the RX i don't really take that care of doing it unless i'm on a huge hill, which rarely ever happens. i mean Park is there for a reason, and generally i don't even have the P brake on if i'm parked on level surfaces wherever i go (home, work, supermarket, mall, etc).
but that's just me. i don't know if it's "normal" or not, but i agree w/ the majority of the others -- over time you won't care and it's not going to destroy the car. i'm pretty OCD over the car too, even after 4 1/2 years.
also, i agree w/ RXSF - if i'm parked on a hill i'll let the car roll forward or back slowly after putting in Park and then step on the P brake. that way there is no lurching or rolling when i disengage it.
Living in on a billiard-table flat coastal prairie, I've gotten pretty cavalier about the use of my e-brake - I probably haven't used it ten times in the last 4 years. In rolling terrain I have to make a mental note to engage that brake before shifting to Park, and releasing it after shifting to Drive (or Reverse).
tgdaman is absolutely correct, the e-brake should be set first in most parking situations to prevent the transmission from running into that parking pawl that locks the driveline. On a steep hill, you may not be able to disengage it when a heavy load is applied. In any case, you are doing your transmission no favors to hold back the car - that lock is not meant to bear the full weight of the car, just keep it from rolling on a gentle slope.
On my part-time 4wd K-20 Suburbans, I managed to park the car in 4-High and put it in Park before I set the e-brake a time or two. I couldn't shift out of Park on a steep slope, with all four wheels locked holding a three-ton vehicle. I was able to hold the truck with the service brake with the engine running and bang the transfer case into neutral, releasing the pressure on the transmission, that then slid easily out of park.
My Dad once got my first K-20 locked like this in 2-H on a hill and finally got the shifter into neutral by chinning himself on it. There was a resounding CLANG! from the driveshaft that could be heard for a mile, but thankfully no apparent damage.
tgdaman is absolutely correct, the e-brake should be set first in most parking situations to prevent the transmission from running into that parking pawl that locks the driveline. On a steep hill, you may not be able to disengage it when a heavy load is applied. In any case, you are doing your transmission no favors to hold back the car - that lock is not meant to bear the full weight of the car, just keep it from rolling on a gentle slope.
On my part-time 4wd K-20 Suburbans, I managed to park the car in 4-High and put it in Park before I set the e-brake a time or two. I couldn't shift out of Park on a steep slope, with all four wheels locked holding a three-ton vehicle. I was able to hold the truck with the service brake with the engine running and bang the transfer case into neutral, releasing the pressure on the transmission, that then slid easily out of park.
My Dad once got my first K-20 locked like this in 2-H on a hill and finally got the shifter into neutral by chinning himself on it. There was a resounding CLANG! from the driveshaft that could be heard for a mile, but thankfully no apparent damage.
Last edited by Lil4X; Sep 17, 2007 at 03:28 PM.
Lil4X,
My wife has been forgiven for her transmission transgression. She hit a Royal Flush yesterday and split with me.
We both love going to New Orleans, especially because of such SMART people like yourself.
My wife has been forgiven for her transmission transgression. She hit a Royal Flush yesterday and split with me.
We both love going to New Orleans, especially because of such SMART people like yourself.
My wife hit a drawing for a nice payday a few years ago. I don't get to criticize her at all anymore. She's out saving me a fortune right now . . . shopping. She's got the RX today, so I expect she's buying in large quantities . . . saving us a LOT. Anyone need a couple cases of toilet paper? I'm just a guy - I don't understand arcane feminine logic. Maybe I'm not so smart after all.
This is why I was sooo interested in the posting on another thread about the remote powered mirror folding trick. Wife had taken out a mirror in our previous minivan. She was thrilled to know the RX was narrower by about 1/2" than the Sienna. Having mirrors that fold up from the inside would be an absolute dream for her and me, too.
A guy picks up an old oil lamp, rubs it clean, and a genie pops out.
"You get one wish."
"My wife and I would love to go to Hawaii, but she won't fly and I won't go on a ship. Could you build a highway so we can drive there?"
"That's asking much too much - incredibly difficult - almost impossible. Do you have another desire?"
"Yes. I always wanted to be able to understand women. Please grant me that understanding."
"You want two lanes or four?"
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"You get one wish."
"My wife and I would love to go to Hawaii, but she won't fly and I won't go on a ship. Could you build a highway so we can drive there?"
"That's asking much too much - incredibly difficult - almost impossible. Do you have another desire?"
"Yes. I always wanted to be able to understand women. Please grant me that understanding."
"You want two lanes or four?"
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