Notices
RC F (2015-present) Discussion topics related to the RC F model

Winter is coming

 
Old 09-26-18, 10:33 AM
  #1  
rcfowner
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
rcfowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: TN
Posts: 40
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Winter is coming

Who drives their rc in the winter? Who uses winter tires and what kind? What precautions do you take to protect paint, glass, etc.. from hazardous cold and debris? Report in.

(here's mine after washing with chemical guys citrus wash and gloss)
rcfowner is online now  
Old 09-26-18, 03:20 PM
  #2  
CAHWY128
Pole Position
 
CAHWY128's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: CA
Posts: 360
Received 94 Likes on 75 Posts
Default

I drive mine all winter. I live in California so no big deal. It is actually my favorite time to drive because the cool air makes the car feel faster and the back roads around Napa where I drive have way less tourist traffic in winter.
CAHWY128 is offline  
Old 09-26-18, 04:42 PM
  #3  
DebianDog
Driver School Candidate
 
DebianDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: VA
Posts: 31
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

If it is going to rain... I will try drive my truck. But that's me. it's mostly because people drive stupid If there is any type of precipitation. But I'm also lazy and don't want to wash it again.

I got stuck in a rainstorm the other day and the amount of dirt and debris on the back of the car when I got home (between the bumper and the top of the truck) was almost unbelievable. I guess the way the RCF moves air at all collects there.

But with the advanced traction control the Lexus has I would not be too concerned about driving in the slop. other people however ...
DebianDog is offline  
Old 09-26-18, 06:09 PM
  #4  
05RollaXRS
Lexus Fanatic
 
05RollaXRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 5,695
Received 476 Likes on 381 Posts
Default

We get snow here so it hibernates in the underground garage from December till March. Don't want salt and rock chip cr*p on it. I drive my daily everywhere during those months.
05RollaXRS is online now  
The following users liked this post:
GunnyFitz (11-14-18)
Old 09-26-18, 06:11 PM
  #5  
1KwikGT
Driver School Candidate
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: TX
Posts: 37
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Don’t get much snow in Texas so no issues here.
1KwikGT is offline  
Old 09-27-18, 08:02 AM
  #6  
2UR
Rookie
 
2UR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Drivers Seat
Posts: 77
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

My F is enjoying its last few weeks on the tarmac in nice, decent weather here on the east cost, early November it will be stored, garaged until early spring. To prep mine for the winter I just had the car detailed with a basic exterior 3step detail/wax, and will probably just have it serviced here soon.
Unfortunately this car will never see the street during the winter because of the salts they use here, not only that but more so people and their driving habits. People seem to think theyíre better race car drivers in the snow than when itís dry, sigh.
2UR is offline  
The following users liked this post:
rcfowner (09-27-18)
Old 09-27-18, 08:25 AM
  #7  
05RollaXRS
Lexus Fanatic
 
05RollaXRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 5,695
Received 476 Likes on 381 Posts
Default

That is the way to go, if you intend on keeping your RCF for the long term especially in pristine condition. Salts and rock chips are the worst enemies of the exterior condition (if they throw in your area for traction). I have 3M tape on my car, but due the wide track (and spacers on mine), it still kicks up rock chips quite a lot and the paint is quite thin on our RCFs so it can chip rather easily.

I will have to wait patiently till next april/may to put a catback exhaust on my RCF.

Originally Posted by 2UR View Post
My F is enjoying its last few weeks on the tarmac in nice, decent weather here on the east cost, early November it will be stored, garaged until early spring. To prep mine for the winter I just had the car detailed with a basic exterior 3step detail/wax, and will probably just have it serviced here soon.
Unfortunately this car will never see the street during the winter because of the salts they use here, not only that but more so people and their driving habits. People seem to think they’re better race car drivers in the snow than when it’s dry, sigh.
05RollaXRS is online now  
Old 09-27-18, 09:16 AM
  #8  
2UR
Rookie
 
2UR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Drivers Seat
Posts: 77
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS View Post
That is the way to go, if you intend on keeping your RCF for the long term especially in pristine condition. Salts and rock chips are the worst enemies of the exterior condition (if they throw in your area for traction). I have 3M tape on my car, but due the wide track (and spacers on mine), it still kicks up rock chips quite a lot and the paint is quite thin on our RCFs so it can chip rather easily.

I will have to wait patiently till next april/may to put a catback exhaust on my RCF.
I definitely hear ya, man the paint is so thin I swear. I have a clear bra on the front of the car (bumper, mirrors hood, fenders) and couldnít imagine not having done this, am heavily considering either having that removed and doing the whole car, or ceramic coating early next spring. Does ceramic coating give the same or better protection than a clear bra? Also are all paint colors for the F thin like this or is it specific colors? Wonder if the ISF had this issue. That first startup next spring though when itís time to drive the F for the first time
2UR is offline  
Old 09-27-18, 09:19 AM
  #9  
05RollaXRS
Lexus Fanatic
 
05RollaXRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 5,695
Received 476 Likes on 381 Posts
Default

No, Ceramic coating will not give the same protection as PPF. It can resist some small rock chips, but for the ultimate protection PPF is the way to go.

Regarding ISF, funny you mentioned since my service advisor at the local Toyota dealership for my daily driver, has a modded 2010 Silver ISF that he drives all the year round. When I was checking it out in the parking lot, the hood was fully of rock chips like my Corolla XRS. That is when it dawned on me that it is not a good idea to drive it in the winter for longevity reasons.

Originally Posted by 2UR View Post


I definitely hear ya, man the paint is so thin I swear. I have a clear bra on the front of the car (bumper, mirrors hood, fenders) and couldnít imagine not having done this, am heavily considering either having that removed and doing the whole car, or ceramic coating early next spring. Does ceramic coating give the same or better protection than a clear bra? Also are all paint colors for the F thin like this or is it specific colors? Wonder if the ISF had this issue. That first startup next spring though when itís time to drive the F for the first time
05RollaXRS is online now  
The following 2 users liked this post by 05RollaXRS:
GunnyFitz (11-14-18), rcfowner (09-27-18)
Old 09-28-18, 05:31 AM
  #10  
Benoit
Pole Position
 
Benoit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 332
Received 22 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

There is a problem with my translator here. Everytime I tip "bra" in the translator, he's throwing me some woman underwear. I really doubt this translation is correct. Can you confirm ?
Benoit is offline  
Old 09-28-18, 07:11 PM
  #11  
ct6978
Driver
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: CA
Posts: 108
Received 35 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Benoit View Post
There is a problem with my translator here. Everytime I tip "bra" in the translator, he's throwing me some woman underwear. I really doubt this translation is correct. Can you confirm ?
The name is based on the older style car bra (see example below) that was named after women's underwear, specifically the top 1/2... A clear bra for a car is simply a thin, slightly more permanent (you can peel off and replace) version using plastic film, same function, different construction. Both types of car bras offer protection to your front end from rock chips, although the clear bras look better and don't flap in the wind.


Old school car bra:



Clear bra (closeup of a partial version that's a bit obvious, done properly they can be essentially invisible as they're stretched into the seams and often cover the entire front end or all of the car)


Last edited by ct6978; 09-28-18 at 07:31 PM.
ct6978 is offline  
Old 09-28-18, 08:47 PM
  #12  
Rahim523
Rookie
 
Rahim523's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: IL
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Damn.... nobody here drives their car in the winter? Lol I live in Chicago with brutal winters and plan on driving it year round. I can barely go a day without being in the driver's seat!! Just need some advice on the best snow tires for our car
Rahim523 is offline  
Old 09-28-18, 11:25 PM
  #13  
05RollaXRS
Lexus Fanatic
 
05RollaXRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 5,695
Received 476 Likes on 381 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rahim523 View Post
Damn.... nobody here drives their car in the winter? Lol I live in Chicago with brutal winters and plan on driving it year round. I can barely go a day without being in the driver's seat!! Just need some advice on the best snow tires for our car
Well, RCF is not fun to drive in the winter. Even if you have Blizzaks on, you have to be careful with the power. It will get you where you want to go in deep snow, but if you try to accelerate, the tail is going to come out easily. Basically you are driving the car in limp mode whenever it snows. I guess, for me it is quality rather than quantity of driving and that RCF does not make much sense as a point A to B job especially when there is salt and rock chips on the roads.
05RollaXRS is online now  
The following 2 users liked this post by 05RollaXRS:
Apone (11-13-18), rcfowner (11-13-18)
Old 09-28-18, 11:45 PM
  #14  
Benoit
Pole Position
 
Benoit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 332
Received 22 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

The name is based on the older style car bra (see example below) that was named after women's underwear, specifically the top 1/2... A clear bra for a car is simply a thin, slightly more permanent (you can peel off and replace) version using plastic film, same function, different construction. Both types of car bras offer protection to your front end from rock chips, although the clear bras look better and don't flap in the wind.
Thank you for the precisions. It's now absolutely clear for me.

Damn.... nobody here drives their car in the winter? Lol I live in Chicago with brutal winters and plan on driving it year round. I can barely go a day without being in the driver's seat!! Just need some advice on the best snow tires for our car
I'm actually not possessing a Lexus RCF. Whatever, as I searched good winter tires for my own car, I got into a specialized shop with a good reputation. In short, what the shopkeeper said to me back then, was that every brand, in general, use a specific brand of tires when they are doing their setup in the prototype phase.
I will invent here, but VW for example Continental in the summer and Dunlop in the Winter. Peugeot Michelin in the Winter and maybe in the summer, etc... Lexus is very likely to proceed in the same way. Maybe Lexus could give you some advice directly of what brand of tire they usually use in winter for setuping their cars.

Also, not all brands are performing the same in a specific tire design. So if you put those rubbers on the OEM 19" wheels or if you put them on 17" aftermarket wheels for the winter will make a huge difference.

And, for the last, a personnal advice from me based on my past experience on snow (we have a lot of them too in Switzerland), I always recommend to have a good chunk of tire flange when you put winter tires on. For the RCF, I would not put on a wheel that is larger than 17" for real winter application. Also, bagged cars and lowered cars are a problem on snow, so check the actual performance of your local winter road crews. If they let the snow raise more than what is necessary to clean your front fender, I would have a used Daihatsu Trevis on the side for the worst case scenarios.
Benoit is offline  
Old 09-29-18, 12:29 AM
  #15  
05RollaXRS
Lexus Fanatic
 
05RollaXRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 5,695
Received 476 Likes on 381 Posts
Default

RCF cannot have any wheel smaller than 19 inch because of the brake/caliper clearance issue. Maybe, some specific 18 wheels with appropriate design can barely clear the brakes, but 17 inch is impossible.

Originally Posted by Benoit View Post
T

Also, not all brands are performing the same in a specific tire design. So if you put those rubbers on the OEM 19" wheels or if you put them on 17" aftermarket wheels for the winter will make a huge difference.

And, for the last, a personnal advice from me based on my past experience on snow (we have a lot of them too in Switzerland), I always recommend to have a good chunk of tire flange when you put winter tires on. For the RCF, I would not put on a wheel that is larger than 17" for real winter application. Also, bagged cars and lowered cars are a problem on snow, so check the actual performance of your local winter road crews. If they let the snow raise more than what is necessary to clean your front fender, I would have a used Daihatsu Trevis on the side for the worst case scenarios.
05RollaXRS is online now  
The following users liked this post:
rcfowner (11-13-18)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Winter is coming


Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: