Notices
RC F (2015-present) Discussion topics related to the RC F model

RC F Engine -- Track Proven

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:02 PM
  #31  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
Thread Starter
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,885
Likes: 476
From: Lovely OC
Default

Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
jesus christ the sound at the end
Originally Posted by Tam350G
Holy.... I haz goosebumps
that rev at the end of the video huh?
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:06 PM
  #32  
phm14's Avatar
phm14
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 38
Likes: 1
From: TX
Default

I'm more impressed with real world production car performance than how much extra a brand costs consumers due to throwing gobs of money at their racing program. Sure, it's cool, and I love to watch racing, and even do an occasional OTD myself, but the bottom line for me is how well the car I'm paying for holds together and performs day to day, for my purposes. Let's face it, most race cars have little in common with their production brethren-they are purpose built and not street friendly in the least. If the maker is able to improve their production cars with trickle down development, great, but that's no substitute for R&D on the actual production version of the vehicle. In my book, durability and performance have to be built into the production car, not just the race built version. I pay more for a performance car because it's a source of enjoyment and appreciation for me, not because I want to feel like a winner by association with the brand's racing program. If I can't trust it to stay out of the shop, it becomes one of the very headaches I want to forget about when I'm behind the wheel of an outstanding car. I have an old friend who has over 450K mostly urban miles on the original Toyota V8 & tranny in his 2001 Tundra. That's what I consider "proven", and after 35 years of driving Toyota products, my IS F was an easy choice over it's German competition. I value the peace of mind I have from the feeling that I can get into my car and drive it on a $6K mile road trip, or to an all day flogging on a high speed road course, relatively certain it will get me home without any mechanical interruptions...and then there's warranty performance.

Last edited by phm14; Feb 18, 2014 at 09:54 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:37 PM
  #33  
05RollaXRS's Avatar
05RollaXRS
Lexus Champion
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,365
Likes: 2,766
From: Calgary, AB
Default

There is a lot of questionable views on this thread especially how Porsche is being paraded as being the reason to shame Lexus' racing efforts.

Lexus has had some real big success in endurance racing. LFA has consistently won the SP8 class (even against the Ferrari 458 Italia Challenge, V12 Zagato, Nissan GTR, Corvette C6-R etc. in the SP8 class) every year.

Even while staying in the near-stock class (no weight reduction allowed, restrictors putting limit of 490 HP), the LFA has beaten 95% of the Porsche GT3 cup entered in the GT class while placing a high of #16 overall (GT3 being in the heavily modified class with extreme weight reduction, more suspension mods, similar increased 480 HP).

Again, Lexus entered only 2 LFAs in the SP8 class while Porsche enters over 30 GT3 Cup and Hybrid R in the heavily modified class and Lexus still beat majority of them placing ahead of all but 2 GT3. Since LFA is placed in a very restricted class, being a supercar is completely irrelevant.

Here is a video of LFA wasting a Nissan GTR and the Godly Porsche GT3 Cup (remember, Gazoo LFA is only making 490 HP and weighs 3300 lbs in the SP8 class with very limited suspension modifications so no it is not the PWR)


Last edited by 05RollaXRS; Feb 19, 2014 at 06:32 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:12 AM
  #34  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Nice updates, thanks everyone.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2014 | 11:47 AM
  #35  
Civic Si-r's Avatar
Civic Si-r
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 466
Likes: 0
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS
There is a lot of questionable views on this thread especially how Porsche is being paraded as being the reason to shame Lexus' racing efforts.

Lexus has had some real big success in endurance racing. LFA has consistently won the SP8 class (even against the Ferrari 458 Italia Challenge, V12 Zagato, Nissan GTR, Corvette C6-R etc. in the SP8 class) every year.

Even while staying in the near-stock class (no weight reduction allowed, restrictors putting limit of 490 HP), the LFA has beaten 95% of the Porsche GT3 cup entered in the GT class while placing a high of #16 overall (GT3 being in the heavily modified class with extreme weight reduction, more suspension mods, similar increased 480 HP).

Again, Lexus entered only 2 LFAs in the SP8 class while Porsche enters over 30 GT3 Cup and Hybrid R in the heavily modified class and Lexus still beat majority of them placing ahead of all but 2 GT3. Since LFA is placed in a very restricted class, being a supercar is completely irrelevant.

Here is a video of LFA wasting a Nissan GTR and the Godly Porsche GT3 Cup (remember, Gazoo LFA is only making 490 HP and weighs 3300 lbs in the SP8 class with very limited suspension modifications so no it is not the PWR)

Nissan GT-R vs Porsche GT3 Cup - 2012 Nurburgring 24h - YouTube

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hour...rgring#Winners
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:30 PM
  #36  
TF109B's Avatar
TF109B
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,266
Likes: 2
From: Washington
Default

Porsche was a laugh in formula 1. Did that hurt their image? Difference here is Porsche GT3's are not Luxury cars. The most luxurious car they have is the Panamera which looks like a Tesla. Porsche is even making another SUV to make money. Moving more and more away from their performance brand image to something closer to Lexus. Then they make a Supercar with a hybrid powertrain that weighs near two tons. The hybrid tech isnt even their own, its borrowed from other makers and suppliers. Why do fanboys come from other sites to dump on the new Lexus if their product is superior? I think theres some jealousy. No reason to boast and brag about a Porsche having race proven engines. Theyre not nearly the same as the RC F.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:54 PM
  #37  
Set50's Avatar
Set50
Rookie
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 43
Likes: 22
From: Toronto, ON
Default

Originally Posted by rominl
that rev at the end of the video huh?
Yup ! At first it was just, ok an engine swap interesting

didn't except that ending
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2014 | 03:48 PM
  #38  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
Thread Starter
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,885
Likes: 476
From: Lovely OC
Default

time to get back on topic regarding RC F engine
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2014 | 06:08 PM
  #39  
GreenJimmy's Avatar
GreenJimmy
Rookie
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: Tx
Default

So where's the increased power ( over the IS F ) coming from? Different cams? head changes? ECM changes?
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2014 | 07:42 PM
  #40  
05RollaXRS's Avatar
05RollaXRS
Lexus Champion
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,365
Likes: 2,766
From: Calgary, AB
Default

Originally Posted by GreenJimmy
So where's the increased power ( over the IS F ) coming from? Different cams? head changes? ECM changes?
The entire engine has been reworked. Forged titanium pistons, lighter internals, higher flow headers making the engine produce more torque at higher rpms (and hence automatically overall more horsepower) etc.

The engine is tuned to produce surging torque towards a higher redline (7400 rpm) so the torque curve overall is much broader than the IS-F version.
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2014 | 11:25 AM
  #41  
spwolf's Avatar
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 20,240
Likes: 274
Default

D4S is also new according to head engineer.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MR_F1
Car Chat
3
Feb 18, 2007 01:09 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:12 AM.