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Old Feb 17, 2025 | 05:24 AM
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Anyone have any experience with upgrading internals in the 2UR-GSE? Wondering about building it to 5.4 liter like the GT3.
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Modifying the production variant of the 2UR-GSE to the GT3 variant is probably next to impossible. The problem is ECU first and then you have to control the VVT-i system then you have to control the D4S, Fuel Injection driver system and that means you need to have full knowledge of this engine.

Unlike the Chevy LS push-rod engines and others which are easier to modify the Japanese design of this is too complex and old-school as The Car Care Nut puts it in his videos, tolerances are very tight. The other day I saw an LC video with 84K miles, dude was saying it was great for most part but once he did a tune on it, the timing failures happened and the engine is toast so he had to get another engine for more than $20K.
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Plus Japanese variants have some sort of Speed limit on these from ECU, they have a Circuit mode (You can see the icon for that in JDM RCFs or Japanese brochure, here's a thread) to unlock the speed, TOMs does sell ECU system to remove the speed limit and as you can see one needs to remove the ECU then send that to Japan to get it flashed and then install plus a dealer reset. Here's one for Lexus LC again the same Circuit mode. So basically the ECU cannot even be hacked to bypass the max speed limit higher than 168-180Mph in USDM.

Supercharging, Nitrous Oxide and Rebuilding of the Lexus-Yamaha 2UR-GSE is not at all worth in my opinion. The moment you change something in the Lexus V8 you will set off something else thereby reducing the reliability factor for this engine. As much as BMW M engines like S58 have a ton of aftermarket community, I doubt you can get away with free boost performance by simple hack like an Android phone bootloader unlock and have no issues, they will also reduce the longevity factor. The pre-facelift variants (2015-2019) are only compatible with the Supercharger that's another point to note.

A few Nitrous Oxide RCF threads...I have always had curiosity on the NOS systems (thanks to NFS Underground 2, Most Wanted & Carbon), there are only a few threads here since it's not fully legal I think the lack of information is showing.
https://www.clublexus.com/articles/s...s-fed-monster/
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...ous-users.html

That said here's a modified Lexus 2UR-GSE engine by DSport. They have increased the Bore size, HP (542), Displacement (5.6L, which is more than RCF GT3 5.4L) and Torque (440 lb-ft).


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https://dsportmag.com/the-cars/lexus...atic-lc-500/2/

The Toyota 2UR-GSE was a completely new engine to everyone at DSPORT. We knew that we needed to make it more powerful, but we needed to first get familiar with it. After teardown and analysis was complete, we learned a great deal about this engine. For starters, we like it. We like it a lot! The block itself is designed to be incredibly strong. No less than 6 bolts secure each of the main caps on the engine. Main webs are extremely strong too. The cylinder bore spacing was 105.5mm, which provided for potential. The more we looked at the block, the more we kept thinking about building 1,500 and 2,000 horsepower variants. When we focused back at the task at hand, we found a forged crankshaft, well-designed cylinder heads, high-lift camshafts and titanium valves. Of course, we also found two things that we didn’t like. The OEM connecting rods didn’t appear to be engineered to handle much more additional power and the factory exhaust manifolds looked to have “fit” much higher on the design list than function. It’s our guess that 20-30 horsepower would be available with a set of better designed headers. Unfortunately, we don’t know if it would be possible to make a better set that would fit in the chassis too. Also, the factory camshafts featured some rather complex manufacturing that would require some serious time and money to develop upgraded replacements.

So how would we be able to generate more power? We decided to keep it simple and increase the engine’s displacement. Based on the bore spacing and other critical dimensions within the engine, we decided that an increase in bore size from 94mm to 99.5mm would do the trick. We sent the block to LA Sleeve for further inspection and to allow them to take the measurements needed to produce a set of amphibious sleeves for the 2UR-GSE.

Magnus Ohlaker of Club DSPORT machined the block to accept the new amphibious sleeves. These sleeves locate on a shelf machined into the original cylinders which secure to the block by means of a slight interference fit. The process was captured on video and it’s worth watching. The new sleeves were bored to size before being fitted with custom CP Pistons and Carrillo connecting rods. The CP Pistons were designed to deliver the OE compression ratio while the Carrillo rods were designed to handle over 200 horsepower per cylinder. While it’s definitely overkill for now, the engine is capable of handling 1,600 horsepower or more. The completed assembly also required O-ringing of the cylinders to work with the modified factory head gasket which was never intended to seal a 99.5mm bore. While the original displacement checked in at 4,969.5cc, the new engine’s displacement is 5,568.1cc. This raises output of the engine to 525 horsepower and 440 lb-ft of torque. Since the fuel demands are just 12-percent more than the original, we may be lucky enough to have the factory ECU get the job done without recalibration (something we don’t personally have direct access to doing on this platform). In endurance racing configuration with a race exhaust in place, we see no reason why 600 horsepower couldn’t be approached and possibly exceeded.
The article mentions use of the existing ECU, no idea how that is even possible. Also from the video it looks too damn expensive to rebuild this engine which has forged internals. Not sure if there's any other material related to this modification, I cannot find any video or such from DSport or others.

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I think the internals are pretty good from the factory. The engine is already special. I prefer reliability over max power.
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I’ve spoken to a few people who have had engine problems requiring engine tear downs because of the RR supercharger. If I’m going to have to worry about that why not just tear it down and bore it out to a 5.4 and not worry about boost?
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