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Old 08-18-18, 01:20 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm considering PPE Engineering header for my RC. Problem is I haven't been to find many sound clips that has left a good impression. I would like some feedback from actual members that have installed it on their RC's.

My RC currently has an ARK exhaust and I love the deep growl it has. I've been able to find one clip of an actual RC w/ the header and the pitch is a bit high. The only other video I've found is of a GS350 and while it is loud and aggressive, it definitely is lacking a deeper note.

Maybe the sound clips aren't a true representation of the sound, can anyone with these headers chime in?
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Old 08-18-18, 05:10 PM
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Maybe also try searching sounds of the IS350?
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Originally Posted by Rudiculous
Maybe also try searching sounds of the IS350?
If it helps, this is how the PPE headers + F-Sport Exhaust sound on an IS350 (which has the same 2GR-FSE engine):


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Its definitely going to be a lot louder and have a higher pitch.

Rc350, GS350, IS350, all the same sound pretty much.

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Thanks for the suggestions and help. The videos just sort of solidified my assumptions on the pitch. It is a bit higher, I will lose the growl that I love so now it's a matter of justifying 15 or so HP gain for the pitch.
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Worth it

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Worth it

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Definitely not....

OP, sell it/trade it in for a. RCF....your hp and sound problems will all be solved then, trust me!

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In terms of horsepower, it adds a noticeable amount of pull to acceleration. But for me, the PPE+ARK combo was way too loud. Around 2-3k rpm was obnoxious, causing everything inside the car to rattle. I now have PPE header, ARK up to the axle back connection, then tanabe medalion mufflers (glad I kept them after getting the ARK!). With the current setup the exhaust note is deep, with a seriously mean growl at WOT, almost perfect (I'd prefer a touch quieter as the car is my daily).
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Originally Posted by Vitveet
Definitely not....

OP, sell it/trade it in for a. RCF....your hp and sound problems will all be solved then, trust me!

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Very good suggestion but realistically this car is great and I already love it. I don't need 400+ HP, just mainly looking to bring out the most of what the car can offer. We all know the terrible HP restrictions coming from the factory and it's a shame they don't take the extra effort to crank out a bit more HP when they know the motor is well capable of it.

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In terms of horsepower, it adds a noticeable amount of pull to acceleration. But for me, the PPE+ARK combo was way too loud. Around 2-3k rpm was obnoxious, causing everything inside the car to rattle. I now have PPE header, ARK up to the axle back connection, then tanabe medalion mufflers (glad I kept them after getting the ARK!). With the current setup the exhaust note is deep, with a seriously mean growl at WOT, almost perfect (I'd prefer a touch quieter as the car is my daily).
I'm super interested in this setup of yours. Do you happen to have any sound clips? I also felt that PPE and ARK can be a bit loud for me at this age, but if you found some magic combination to keep the growl and at an appropriate decibel level then I would be sold!
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Originally Posted by fizik
Very good suggestion but realistically this car is great and I already love it. I don't need 400+ HP, just mainly looking to bring out the most of what the car can offer. We all know the terrible HP restrictions coming from the factory and it's a shame they don't take the extra effort to crank out a bit more HP when they know the motor is well capable of it.



I'm super interested in this setup of yours. Do you happen to have any sound clips? I also felt that PPE and ARK can be a bit loud for me at this age, but if you found some magic combination to keep the growl and at an appropriate decibel level then I would be sold!
I can get a sound clip at some point this week/weekend. The main issue with the ARK is it's a full straight through design, using only a series of resonators, which results in a very loud exhaust. An actual muffler with an expansion chamber will greatly reduce the decibel levels, without a noticeable reduction in performance (as long as it's a high flow muffler). As you already have the ARK, an exhaust shop should be able to easily weld in a new set of mufflers of your choosing.
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Originally Posted by rcJten
I can get a sound clip at some point this week/weekend. The main issue with the ARK is it's a full straight through design, using only a series of resonators, which results in a very loud exhaust. An actual muffler with an expansion chamber will greatly reduce the decibel levels, without a noticeable reduction in performance (as long as it's a high flow muffler). As you already have the ARK, an exhaust shop should be able to easily weld in a new set of mufflers of your choosing.
That would be awesome if you could, and greatly appreciated.

I've considered that as an option since I'll be having the exhaust modded with high flow cats as well. I'll call around to a few shops and see what they can recommend. Seems like a waste to cut into such an expensive exhaust though.
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Headphones recommended.

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Originally Posted by fizik
That would be awesome if you could, and greatly appreciated.

I've considered that as an option since I'll be having the exhaust modded with high flow cats as well. I'll call around to a few shops and see what they can recommend. Seems like a waste to cut into such an expensive exhaust though.
You could always buy the Tanabe axle back system, and keep or sell the ARK axleback. The Tanabe system still needs a small amount of modification to work, as they come with a reduction at the flange to connect to the smaller factory diameter piping. It cost me $150 to have the flanges cut off and 3.5" piped flange welded on.

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The Ark full kit will make it much faster. It is really loud though. Vibrates the interior a bit.
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Originally Posted by Megafast13
The Ark full kit will make it much faster. It is really loud though. Vibrates the interior a bit.
On a NA motor the difference in power between different high flow mufflers will be insignificant. Maybe a few HPs. The removal of the catalytic converters will free up more HP than anything else, followed by tubing diameter, then tubing straightness, then mufflers and resonators.

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