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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Question OBX Headers for GS400 GS430?!?!

So I was on ebay and I stumbled upon this







http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-SUS304-H...6da00a&vxp=mtr

when did OBX start making headers for v8s?! I looked on their site and they don't have any info on this

anyone try this? I'm still deciding of I should jump or the PPE group buy
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Just go PPE, its a no brainer.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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How much does the PPE header cost? The OBX is $350, which I'm sure is a lot cheaper than the PPE one. If you're saying that the header will crack, I think that is more of the end user not replacing the motor mounts on the car. It's not entirely the fault of the headers. Old mounts will allow the engine to shift around big time and will crack almost any set of headers out there.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffTsai
How much does the PPE header cost? The OBX is $350, which I'm sure is a lot cheaper than the PPE one. If you're saying that the header will crack, I think that is more of the end user not replacing the motor mounts on the car. It's not entirely the fault of the headers. Old mounts will allow the engine to shift around big time and will crack almost any set of headers out there.
I think its more to it than just the motor mounts.. I believe applications vary as well from 400 to 430 and other cars they have listed. I dont think is one size fits all. It was only a matter of time where S&S/PPE design was gonna get copied and mass produced, its THE WAY OF SCENE..
To many variables to go dropping $375 for something without R&D and or a Quality name behind it.
But guess what, Im sure there will be buyers...Just like everything else..
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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All OBX "racing" does is have China make copies of other peoples products and then sell them through their multiple trade names. They don't do a good job at it either. Nor do they know what they are selling. They have ZERO customer support or product knowledge. Such as the GS400 and GS430 manifolds are different and not interchangable.

This is why they have an F rating with the better business bureau.
http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-franc...land-ca-315289
They are all over www.ripoffreport.com too.

They have copied several of our products and their customers try to call us for support.

Buyer Beware
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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I would also be very concerned about their welds holding up and lack of Coating
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PPEHeaders
They don't do a good job at it either.
Agreed! I have limited knowledge of the header design among the various years/models but from looking closely at this OBX desig , it's very likely that they are going to have "some" clearance issues. Particularly on the first runner on the driver's side header, it doesn't tuck in like the passenger's side front runner. This could cause clearance problems along the drivers side frame rail and sub frame. Additionally back on the drivers side, the collector design, the way the pipes are merging, looks like it is going to be a problem for the steering shaft, at least on my GS400.

Like anyone, I like a bargain, but if I were to dedicate the ~10 hours it would take me to install these headers properly, I surely wouldn't want to be dealing with "numerous" fitment issues with these OBX headers. Sometimes a extra few $100 is money well spent, and this is where PPE's R&D will easily pay for itself!
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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I agree on the fit ment because these are mass produced and they dont take much time to make sure everything is perfect but I don't think they will crack. I have bought the m2 exhaust in eBay and I couldn't be happier. It's still holding sting after I've scraped it as I am lowered. And I no what you guys are thinking, headers and different from the mufflers but for $350 theyre not that big of a risk. And I'm sure you can return them if they have fitment issues. Just my 2 cents
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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I also compared the PPE and the OBX headers and the only difference is the drivers side. The o2 sensor is in a different place and the piping isn't as tucked in. Other than that they look almost the same
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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I will most likely try these out once I get some money saved up after my suspension is finished. I want to gut my cats so this install will give me the opportunity to do so at the same time. Do you think that I will need to tune after the headers and gutted cats? I would think that it would run a bit more lean with the added flow...
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by themccoy14
I will most likely try these out once I get some money saved up after my suspension is finished. I want to gut my cats so this install will give me the opportunity to do so at the same time. Do you think that I will need to tune after the headers and gutted cats? I would think that it would run a bit more lean with the added flow...

Really? Lean? Sighhhhhhh
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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I'm fairly new to the 1UZ and I know nothing about its tuning characteristics. Explain yoself, sir!
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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Never-mind, when you get it , Please post your review.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by themccoy14
I want to gut my cats
enjoy that CEL light
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Nearly everyone complains about there not being any parts for our cars, especially V8 headers. Then a company like PPE makes some, and at a damn good price when every other set that has come along has been at or over a grand (keep in mind that reputable headers for hondas run in the $300+ range, and that's for just 4 cylinders/one bank of our engines), and people actually talk about buying a chinese knock-off and wanting to know about their durability!

No company makes parts for our cars without market research. You know what the research is telling them in this thread? That if they make it, we will buy the knock off. Now why in hell would someone go through the expense of R&D to maybe get one group buy done before everyone else just buys the cheap crap?

The only advantage of the OBX is that they are stainless steel. Now the quality of that stainless is unknown, they are just going to discolor the first time they get hot, and they are under the engine never to be seen again so it doesn't matter.

Personally I'd trust PPE coated steel headers over these any day of the week and from what I've seen PPE's customer service will practically spit shine your shoes while they send a replacement if you have a problem with their product.
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