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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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Hello all,
for the GS 400 the front muffler pipe ( the portion of the pipe that connects to the CAT Converters, what is that on the other end of that section? if you look under the car it is directly in the middle, looks like another muffler.


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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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You mean part 7 in this pic? It's just a muffler on the 98-00 400's, on the 430's models it may have become a cat when the 300's did..

On the 300's 98-00 that location was a muffler and 01-05 it was a cat.

Either way if your thinking of removing it, it will not cause any issues even if it is a cat because the post cat o2's are only monitoring the front two...


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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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I actually am taking out #7 and just putting an x pipe in its place and possibly smaller resonators
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Kool thanx, I need a new y pipe mine is all rusted to sh#t, was thinking of having a muffler shop build me a new section..
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Originally Posted by NEbiker10
I actually am taking out #7 and just putting an x pipe in its place and possibly smaller resonators
What are the resonators for?
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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to resonate the exhaust
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eskaeone
What are the resonators for?
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to resonate the exhaust
They don't 'resonate' as that would be terrible, they are to eliminate/control resonance in the exhaust system and help cancel out some of the excessive frequencies. They can do wonders for helping to eliminate cabin drone at steady rpm's..
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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I've been looking for one of these. Mine went through some rough times (#7). Need to hit the junk yard.
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Originally Posted by 99 GS3
They don't 'resonate' as that would be terrible, they are to eliminate/control resonance in the exhaust system and help cancel out some of the excessive frequencies. They can do wonders for helping to eliminate cabin drone at steady rpm's..
yes my bad...wrong word choice

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I've been looking for one of these. Mine went through some rough times (#7). Need to hit the junk yard.
X-pipe!!!
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NEbiker10
yes my bad...wrong word choice



X-pipe!!!
where you gettin' one from? getting a shop to make it for you?
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Thanks for the help guys!
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I have wrote a fair amount on X, Y and H pipes. You may want to search as the answers may surprise you. Find another stock one if possible. They work very well.

Removing the center resonator will increase sound but will do very little for power.
Replacing with an aftermarket X, Y or H will likely reduce performance.
Not that stock is the absolute best... just most replacements will not work as well.
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Originally Posted by JBrady
I have wrote a fair amount on X, Y and H pipes. You may want to search as the answers may surprise you. Find another stock one if possible. They work very well.

Removing the center resonator will increase sound but will do very little for power.
Replacing with an aftermarket X, Y or H will likely reduce performance.
Not that stock is the absolute best... just most replacements will not work as well.

Ok thanks again for the information! was thinking of getting rid of #7 just incase I couldn't find a stock replacement, and I also really wanted to know what the hell it did..lol and if it was really needed..I think I'm getting rid of it, if I dont really need it and if it will give me a little more sound, hope its not really loud thou, planning to slap on some headers, I'll try it both ways.
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Originally Posted by eskaeone
where you gettin' one from? getting a shop to make it for you?
I bought one from amazon for 30.00......the magnaflow one is very nice but its 90.00
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Originally Posted by NEbiker10
I bought one from amazon for 30.00......the magnaflow one is very nice but its 90.00
Ok,
I'll look into it, thanks for your help..
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