Should I install Torque Master Plugs!!!!!
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Hi, should you use search to get the answer to this question? YES PLEASE 
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Instant answers, no waiting - has been covered many times.
Try going to advanced search
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put in 'torque master' and select 2nd gen GS in the "Search in Forum(s)"
Thank you
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I just installed a set in my 2000 GS400 with 86K and I have to say I do notice a difference. There does appear to be more torque/power with the new plugs. Now is it just that I have new plugs, and any new plugs would give the car a little more grunt, or is it the TM's doing their thing? Well all I can say is there is a little more power than before - and I like that
!I did pull the ECU fuse after install. Make sure you do this if you do decide to install these plugs.
Also, the car sounds a little more mean. I have stock intake and exhaust, but when I get on it there appears to be more of a sound you would expect if I had an aftermarket intake or exhaust -- note that this is a very very subtle sound and for someone that didn't know the car - they would probably not be able to tell. But I can. Just a little more throaty in the mid and upper rpm range. And with that throaty sound also comes more umph!!!
Hey - just my 2 cents worth from my seat of the pants dyno meter - and as they say: Your mileage may vary
I just installed a set in my 2000 GS400 with 86K and I have to say I do notice a difference. There does appear to be more torque/power with the new plugs. Now is it just that I have new plugs, and any new plugs would give the car a little more grunt, or is it the TM's doing their thing? Well all I can say is there is a little more power than before - and I like that
!I did pull the ECU fuse after install. Make sure you do this if you do decide to install these plugs.
Also, the car sounds a little more mean. I have stock intake and exhaust, but when I get on it there appears to be more of a sound you would expect if I had an aftermarket intake or exhaust -- note that this is a very very subtle sound and for someone that didn't know the car - they would probably not be able to tell. But I can. Just a little more throaty in the mid and upper rpm range. And with that throaty sound also comes more umph!!!
Hey - just my 2 cents worth from my seat of the pants dyno meter - and as they say: Your mileage may vary
however would i do it again? i highly doubt. i put in TM plugs in my gs400 at around 50k miles, and at two different occasions when my car was around 70k, two mechanics drove my cars and asked if the plugs were old or worn, since they felt something weird about them.
in any case i pulled the plug and got some new OEM plugs again, and after changing the TM ones out, the mechanic asked what they are, coz' they are all worn out already in pretty bad shape
so much about this mod to me
haha
oh well - such is life. no worries - i got a good deal on them so it's all good.
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Adding my two cents.
Several years ago, I got them after some recommendations in my forum. Didn't do dink for me. However, then my RX was literally bone stock. I was hoping it would help burn better the crap gas we had down here until the formulation recently changed. When back to Densos.
Then last year, after finishing a ton of modifications, I decided to give them another go around.
I noticed the difference. With my increased air flow especially, the TMs came to life and I noticed I had a much lower HC reading on a exhaust analysis, even come emissions time (which I do for voluntary reasons to drive every day here).
Only complaint is that with my use of racing gas (unleaded of course) as a cleaner along with other additives, not to mention one years use of high sulfur gas here, the plugs got pretty fouled up. However, that goes for most vehicle running the regular gas here alone (I use premium though) after one year.
They get my recommendation.
Several years ago, I got them after some recommendations in my forum. Didn't do dink for me. However, then my RX was literally bone stock. I was hoping it would help burn better the crap gas we had down here until the formulation recently changed. When back to Densos.
Then last year, after finishing a ton of modifications, I decided to give them another go around.
I noticed the difference. With my increased air flow especially, the TMs came to life and I noticed I had a much lower HC reading on a exhaust analysis, even come emissions time (which I do for voluntary reasons to drive every day here).
Only complaint is that with my use of racing gas (unleaded of course) as a cleaner along with other additives, not to mention one years use of high sulfur gas here, the plugs got pretty fouled up. However, that goes for most vehicle running the regular gas here alone (I use premium though) after one year.
They get my recommendation.
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Lead Lap
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Rominl - I think I read somewhere here on the board that TM changed their design at some point - when did you have the TM plugs? Could they have been the older design? And does anyone know for sure if they did change the design?
Also - anyone have them in their car for 50 - 60K miles and want to comment on their experience with the longevity of the plugs.
Also - anyone have them in their car for 50 - 60K miles and want to comment on their experience with the longevity of the plugs.
400,
I installed these TM spark plugs about 5 mos. ago...I like them. I feel smoother idle, smoother acceleration and a little more power regardless if it's because they are just new or the fact that they are TM's.
I installed these TM spark plugs about 5 mos. ago...I like them. I feel smoother idle, smoother acceleration and a little more power regardless if it's because they are just new or the fact that they are TM's.
Rominl - I think I read somewhere here on the board that TM changed their design at some point - when did you have the TM plugs? Could they have been the older design? And does anyone know for sure if they did change the design?
Also - anyone have them in their car for 50 - 60K miles and want to comment on their experience with the longevity of the plugs.
Also - anyone have them in their car for 50 - 60K miles and want to comment on their experience with the longevity of the plugs.
mine i probably got them back in late 04??
Lead Lap
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From: California
Rominl - I think I read somewhere here on the board that TM changed their design at some point - when did you have the TM plugs? Could they have been the older design? And does anyone know for sure if they did change the design?
Also - anyone have them in their car for 50 - 60K miles and want to comment on their experience with the longevity of the plugs.
Also - anyone have them in their car for 50 - 60K miles and want to comment on their experience with the longevity of the plugs.
Lead Lap
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So, from what I recall about this the talk was about TM having had prongs that were soildered on and now they are cast or whatever and are not soidered (I know this is not spelled right). This was the design change I was referring too. Again, I don't know if this is correct - just passing along info I read a while ago. Perhaps someone knows the reality if there was a design change. Please post if you do!
So far I am pleased with the TM plugs in my 2000 GS4.
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I just ordered another 6, so will check them with the design I have currently. Incidentally, I bought a set for my cousin, who has a 1995 VW Golf VR6, and he can definitely notice a little more torque when he hits the gas.
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