WTF? car won't start?!
WTF? car won't start?!
ok i got everything installed that came with the kit and even more **** that i had to buy extra
all pipes are correct
no problems with the belts
all fluids refilled
hoses hooked up
injectors hooked up
SRT ECU removed
NGK plugs in
everything seems to be hooked up and it'll turn over but it only stays running for like 5 seconds.
anyone know what i can do? they're still troubleshooting but have no luck yet...
all pipes are correct
no problems with the belts
all fluids refilled
hoses hooked up
injectors hooked up
SRT ECU removed
NGK plugs in
everything seems to be hooked up and it'll turn over but it only stays running for like 5 seconds.
anyone know what i can do? they're still troubleshooting but have no luck yet...
1-Just an idea, if you have a code reader plug it into the OBD II port and see if any codes at all shows up. engine may not run long enough to pull one.
2-Double check the S-AFCwiring (making sure the correct wire was cut (MAF), the right MAS-in and MAS out is correct. TMake sure the initial S-AFC setup was followed- The set-up before you start the engine example Hot wire setting & 13in and 13 out setting.
3- To make sure the S-AFC is not part of the problem undo the S-AFC wires, dis-connect battery for a few minutes and then try and start it. It should run ok because it was designed to run w/o anything addedbut I would not start adding any boost to it until I got it on a dyno or checked the air/fuel reading to make sure it was not too lean any where. Most gus that have FI'ed were not at 5000ft+ altitude. Any other ideas anyone
2-Double check the S-AFCwiring (making sure the correct wire was cut (MAF), the right MAS-in and MAS out is correct. TMake sure the initial S-AFC setup was followed- The set-up before you start the engine example Hot wire setting & 13in and 13 out setting.
3- To make sure the S-AFC is not part of the problem undo the S-AFC wires, dis-connect battery for a few minutes and then try and start it. It should run ok because it was designed to run w/o anything addedbut I would not start adding any boost to it until I got it on a dyno or checked the air/fuel reading to make sure it was not too lean any where. Most gus that have FI'ed were not at 5000ft+ altitude. Any other ideas anyone
Oh yeah, welcome to the realism of forced induction
Jonny
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got it running, had it running for a couple of days and now it's bein' a ***** again..
we're really rich.. gonna install SAFC II tomorrow and lean it out.. we hit up RMM and they said we don't need an SAFC II but they don't know we're at 6000ft. altitude lol
we're really rich.. gonna install SAFC II tomorrow and lean it out.. we hit up RMM and they said we don't need an SAFC II but they don't know we're at 6000ft. altitude lol
Yea they sold the kit as not needing any thing else. I can think of only one one guy (there may be more) that installed it and did nothing else. Did you use the 310 injectors or larger ones?
I went through all of this myself
Kharizma - did you pick up a Gator back yet??
Jonny
If his only problem is running rich - then the 440's will have a lot to do with it. Not to mention now his plugs will be fouled and will need replaced before he goes any further (Hint - Kharizma - you may want to read this!!)
I installed my wideband and SAFC, and although I got my idle and partial throttle at the right ratio - it always seemed like I was still running rich. It was actually my final dyno with the supercharger that I got somewhere even close to a straight line on the graph.
However, from reading his posts it seems like his mechanics were having a playday with his throttle cable etc so who knows what the problem is!!
I would start with replacing the plugs and then installing the wideband and seeing just how pig rich he is running.
Jonny.
PS - Advice to new FI people. Until you get your car running right - don't put in new, colder plugs. You will only end up fouling them until you get your AF ratio's right!! I learned the hard way. Twice
Gets expensive!
Jonny thanks for the info. Isn't odd how some people put the kit on and no problems ( well none that they share)and some w/ the exact same kit have a slew of issues. I guess that goes to show you how tempermental FI can be w/ a slight change here and there.
Last edited by GILLEXUS; Oct 7, 2006 at 03:04 AM.
Gil,
I think the brunt of the problem lies with people changing up the original RMM released kit. I am pretty certain that anyone who used everything stock that came with the kit - injectors, pulley, fuel pump ran into no problems.
It's when the injectors, pulleys, fuel pump, fuel management get involved that the problem starts.
But in their (mine inclusive) defence, $4500 for 80 hp isn't really worth it to most. Spend the extra couple of hundred dollars for another 50 horse - but in a trade off you run into problems after problems.
So when are you taking the plunge Gil ??
Jonny
I think the brunt of the problem lies with people changing up the original RMM released kit. I am pretty certain that anyone who used everything stock that came with the kit - injectors, pulley, fuel pump ran into no problems.
It's when the injectors, pulleys, fuel pump, fuel management get involved that the problem starts.
But in their (mine inclusive) defence, $4500 for 80 hp isn't really worth it to most. Spend the extra couple of hundred dollars for another 50 horse - but in a trade off you run into problems after problems.
So when are you taking the plunge Gil
??Jonny