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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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I'm wondering if the Aristo will have a Turbo Charged version on the New GS? I really like the Inline 6 on the GS3. It's easy to service, lots of clearence in the engine bay...
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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inline 6 are all gone, they all replaced by v6. but toyota promised a tt setup still
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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inline 6 are all gone, they all replaced by v6. but toyota promised a tt setup still
when did Toyota promise a TT setup? For the Aristo or for the next Supra?
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by GlobeCLK
when did Toyota promise a TT setup? For the Aristo or for the next Supra?
a while ago a japanese mag talked about teh new aristo. they (i read the translated version) said that the new aristo would be using a 3.3L v6, and they will continue to have two version, one being the twin turbo version, probably pushing around 350hp
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I thought Toyota was getting rid of the different naming conventions. I thought JDM cars would also be Lexus as well as the American ones, no more Toyota Aristos. This being said wouldn't it be smatter and cheaper to keep the engines the same, meaning us Americans might be able to by a JDM TT kit for the new GS?
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Originally posted by APLUS
I thought Toyota was getting rid of the different naming conventions. I thought JDM cars would also be Lexus as well as the American ones, no more Toyota Aristos. This being said wouldn't it be smatter and cheaper to keep the engines the same, meaning us Americans might be able to by a JDM TT kit for the new GS?
I think they will keep both model lines. People who want standard leather interior, moonroof, audio, etc. buy the Lexus GS300, while people who want performance get the Toyota Aristo. EXACTLY what should've happened here (except combine both and call it Lexus GS300TT )
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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Yeah thats understandable, but I thought their wasn't going to be any more Toyota badged Lexus in Japan. Toyota wanted to increase Lexus sales worldwide and good way of doing that is the Toyota Aristo will no be called the Lexus GS sedan like in America.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 02:11 AM
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well knowing how conservative toyota/lexus is on performance, i really doubt if they would choose to put in a tt v6 in the gs over a v8. they want smooth quiet ride and the v8 would be what the US market wants. in japan that's another story of course
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 02:25 AM
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Yeah thats exactly where I am trying to go. In Japan I hope they do TT their engine for the GS. But do you think they will keep the 2JZ-GTE TT for the 2004 Japan Lexus GS or use the V-6 330 engine the U.S. market is getting? Remember no more Toyota Aristos after 2003. It seems they would use the same V-6 engine for all six cylider engines just offer a TT setup in Japan for it and a V-8 for the U.S. market. In that case one of our trusty importers/clublexus dealers could get us a factory TT setup for who ever buys the V-6. Just a wish, I can't see them still using the 2JZ-GTE.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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I can totally understand about the engine noise that the I-6 TT creates. When my car drives on normal roads, especially in stop and go traffic, it makes a lot of strange turbo noises: vrooom khachochocho or vrooom pssshhh, definitely not a sound you'd expect to hear coming from a Lexus. And I haven't even had the JIC downpipe on the car yet.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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It would be nice to see a TT setup.
It would be even better if they would also sell it outside Japan.
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even if they do offer a TT for the V6 i dont think you will be able to just plop the turbo from the TT onto the non-turbo v6...i mean if that was the case...y cant we just go and get the factory turbo for the aristo v300 and plop it onto our i-6 gs300....there are still other things under the hood that would need to be changed....
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i mean if that was the case...y cant we just go and get the factory turbo for the aristo v300 and plop it onto our i-6 gs300....there are still other things under the hood that would need to be changed....

Exactly what I am saying. The V300 is the 2JZ-GTE and the USA I-6 is the 2JZ-GT. Well since their isn't any more Aristos then why keep the 2JZ-GTE? You think all engines would be the same now, V-6 engines across the board. V-8's for the USA and TT for Japan to separate the two top of the line models in their perpesctive countries. All I hope is the same V-6 is used, not a variation like the 2JZ-GT, so a TT setup can be bought from Japan. Makes sense?
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Originally posted by APLUS
Yeah thats exactly where I am trying to go. In Japan I hope they do TT their engine for the GS. But do you think they will keep the 2JZ-GTE TT for the 2004 Japan Lexus GS or use the V-6 330 engine the U.S. market is getting? Remember no more Toyota Aristos after 2003. It seems they would use the same V-6 engine for all six cylider engines just offer a TT setup in Japan for it and a V-8 for the U.S. market. In that case one of our trusty importers/clublexus dealers could get us a factory TT setup for who ever buys the V-6. Just a wish, I can't see them still using the 2JZ-GTE.
oh i think you missed my point. in japan the government tightened up the emission law and inline 6 can't pass the emission anymore (i guess due to design). that's why they are all changing over to v6. in fact that's the reason why the new GS will get v6 not inline 6. if i6 are still doable there is no reason why toyota will have to change all the way to v6 for the power, considering that they already have such a proven engine (GE and GTE) to reference. so in japan, if aristo gets tt, it will be on the all new v6 engine.

and to link more stories together, think about the new skyline (g35c in the US in case you don't know). the old legendary skyline R34, etc... they are all based on the inline6 engine. if that engine is that good, why would they build a whole new v6 engine that you find in the skyline and g35c now? same reason. the i6 engine in japan nissan can't get them to pass emission anymore
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Originally posted by APLUS
i mean if that was the case...y cant we just go and get the factory turbo for the aristo v300 and plop it onto our i-6 gs300....there are still other things under the hood that would need to be changed....

Exactly what I am saying. The V300 is the 2JZ-GTE and the USA I-6 is the 2JZ-GT. Well since their isn't any more Aristos then why keep the 2JZ-GTE? You think all engines would be the same now, V-6 engines across the board. V-8's for the USA and TT for Japan to separate the two top of the line models in their perpesctive countries. All I hope is the same V-6 is used, not a variation like the 2JZ-GT, so a TT setup can be bought from Japan. Makes sense?
correction, it's 2JZ-GE, not GT. but i don't know. toyota used to have two kind of i6 too, one NA and one TT. maybe they don't want people to be able to just TT the NA engine bolt on? if that's the case then i won't be surprised if they have some variation between the V6 NA and the one for TT
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