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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 07:35 AM
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I'm about to buy my next Lexus...a NX.
I'm favouring the FSort but which series?

Which one would you recommend?

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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 08:35 AM
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I'd stay away from the "1" series, too many features removed on that one.

Picking between FSport 2 and FSport 3, I guess just compare the difference in features and see if the additional features are worth the extra money to you. Just had a quick glance, the series 3 gets you (over the series 2):
  • ML stereo - If you are a big music buff, some consider this must have, others couldn't care less.
  • Triple Beam Lights - They look really nice, I have them. Self-leveling and automatic directing, comes with the cornering lights too, and built in washers. All nice to have and cool, but necessary, perhaps not. If you don't have them you probably won't miss them.
  • 3rd card key with digital key. Some would find this useful, others not. Do you care about these features?
  • Power rear door, very useful
  • Digital cam review mirror with integrated garage door opener. I love this feature, others might not care at all (some hate the digital cam view).
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I'd stay away from the "1" series, too many features removed on that one.

Picking between FSport 2 and FSport 3, I guess just compare the difference in features and see if the additional features are worth the extra money to you. Just had a quick glance, the series 3 gets you (over the series 2):
  • ML stereo - If you are a big music buff, some consider this must have, others couldn't care less.
  • Triple Beam Lights - They look really nice, I have them. Self-leveling and automatic directing, comes with the cornering lights too, and built in washers. All nice to have and cool, but necessary, perhaps not. If you don't have them you probably won't miss them.
  • 3rd card key with digital key. Some would find this useful, others not. Do you care about these features?
  • Power rear door, very useful
  • Digital cam review mirror with integrated garage door opener. I love this feature, others might not care at all (some hate the digital cam view).
Great advice!
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Just curious why you prefer the Turbo gas over the naturally aspirated hybrid?
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Old Jun 15, 2024 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ZedNotzee
I'm about to buy my next Lexus...a NX.
I'm favouring the FSort but which series?

Which one would you recommend?

Thanks in advance
Hey there!

If you're leaning towards the turbo model, I wouldn't recommend the hybrid version. But, if you’ve driven both and still prefer the turbo, that’s great! However, if you’re curious about the hybrid 350h and open to hearing from owners, I’d say go for it—it’s definitely worth exploring.

When it comes to options, I agree with @Droid13 . You need to consider how much you’ll use features like the HUD, rearview camera, and ML audio in your daily life. Personally, I’ve been really impressed with the fuel efficiency of the 350h. With 9,000 miles on my car, I drive it almost every day, and it offers great comfort, a quiet ride, and fantastic fuel efficiency.

I did a lot of research and test driving before choosing the base trim with some options. If there’s one thing I miss, it’s the ML audio system because I’ve heard great reviews about it. Since I listen to a lot of podcasts, music, and make phone calls in my car, I think I’d appreciate the premium audio.

That’s just my personal experience.

PS: Check out the various threads on owner experiences and recommendations. Do some research and narrow down your choices before making your final decision. Have a great day!👍🏼
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
Just curious why you prefer the Turbo gas over the naturally aspirated hybrid?
I’ve never driven the turbo version, but I did trade my ISF for my 350 hybrid. I’m perfectly happy with the 350h and its gas mileage.
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
Just curious why you prefer the Turbo gas over the naturally aspirated hybrid?
Because I have not drunk the Koolaid.
The price is ridiculous and I don't do enough driving to warrant the difference.
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Old Jun 18, 2024 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ZedNotzee
Because I have not drunk the Koolaid.
The price is ridiculous and I don't do enough driving to warrant the difference.
Rav 4 is the same vehicle if you want to save some money
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Old Jun 18, 2024 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ZedNotzee
Because I have not drunk the Koolaid.
The price is ridiculous and I don't do enough driving to warrant the difference.
Ok......?
The base turbo is about $850 more EXPENSIVE than base Hybrid in Canada. Hybrid is also using a 28 years old Toyota Hybrid technology versus the turbo that was just introduced on 2015 NX for first mass production toyota.
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Old Jun 18, 2024 | 10:57 AM
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He is looking at F Sport and the only F Sport Hybrid is the 450h+ FSport 3 in Canada. I think that is what he meant.
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
Ok......?
The base turbo is about $850 more EXPENSIVE than base Hybrid in Canada. Hybrid is also using a 28 years old Toyota Hybrid technology versus the turbo that was just introduced on 2015 NX for first mass production toyota.
Not anymore. The 2025 NX350h is now about $2000 more expensive than the NX350, but yea, what LFST said, probably comparing to the 450h+.

But in point of fact, Toyota has dabbling with turbos since the 80s. True, mostly on sports cars and diesels, but hybrids have really only been truly mainstream for the last 10 or 15 years. The 1st and perhaps 2nd gen Prius with their 0-60 in 8 minutes were no more mainstream than a nice early 90s Supra with the twin turbo 2JZ engine, which could still probably best all the NXs, including the 450h+.
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Originally Posted by Droid13
Not anymore. The 2025 NX350h is now about $2000 more expensive than the NX350, but yea, what LFST said, probably comparing to the 450h+.

But in point of fact, Toyota has dabbling with turbos since the 80s. True, mostly on sports cars and diesels, but hybrids have really only been truly mainstream for the last 10 or 15 years. The 1st and perhaps 2nd gen Prius with their 0-60 in 8 minutes were no more mainstream than a nice early 90s Supra with the twin turbo 2JZ engine, which could still probably best all the NXs, including the 450h+.
I had a 93' MR2 Turbo. The engine was built for Toyota by Yamaha. Not sure about the Supra...
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Originally Posted by DenverRx
I had a 93' MR2 Turbo. The engine was built for Toyota by Yamaha. Not sure about the Supra...
I'm sure that would have been a very fun drive. If you feel like reminiscing a bit, I watch a Youtuber "D4A" https://www.youtube.com/@d4a that does content mainly about various engine and car technologies (very interesting, but I digress). He has a series of videos following one of his projects to rebuild the engine in a 90s non-turbo MR2, with the goal of adding an aftermarket turbo and upping the MR2's power to 300hp. A very decent amount of power for such a small and light car. Very interesting series if you love MR2s. He walks thru his entire process of prepping the old engine, selecting turbo size, dealing with waste gate and blow off valve setup, adding an intercooler, adding water/alcohol injection, tuning, dyno runs, etc.

PS the 2JZ turbo was a joint project between Hitachi and Toyota.

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Originally Posted by Droid13
Not anymore. The 2025 NX350h is now about $2000 more expensive than the NX350, but yea, what LFST said, probably comparing to the 450h+.

But in point of fact, Toyota has dabbling with turbos since the 80s. True, mostly on sports cars and diesels, but hybrids have really only been truly mainstream for the last 10 or 15 years. The 1st and perhaps 2nd gen Prius with their 0-60 in 8 minutes were no more mainstream than a nice early 90s Supra with the twin turbo 2JZ engine, which could still probably best all the NXs, including the 450h+.
You are right! They eliminated the Signature package in 2025 which brings the Hybrid premium to $2000 more than turbo premium.
After Prius, Camry Hybrid came in 2007 and then the rest of them followed which gives them a good number to test and fix issues, I think.

I am a bit old school on buying the tested technology when it comes to the hearth of the car
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Old Jun 19, 2024 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
You are right! They eliminated the Signature package in 2025 which brings the Hybrid premium to $2000 more than turbo premium.
After Prius, Camry Hybrid came in 2007 and then the rest of them followed which gives them a good number to test and fix issues, I think.

I am a bit old school on buying the tested technology when it comes to the hearth of the car
Yup, I was at the Toyota dealership mid 2006, one of the very first to buy the 2007 Camry Hybrid. This was just the beginning of Toyota hybrids going mainstream I guess, barely. A competent 2.2L engine coupled with the hybrid system (later years upped to the 2.5L) made it a hybrid with real everyday power for everyday purposes that wasn't afraid of the highway or a hill like the early Prius. But even back then people looked at me like I was an idiot for buying it (you do realize you'll need to spend thousands to replace the battery in a few years). Even after I traded it for my RX hybrid which I had for a long time, my colleagues seeing me pull up in it year after year after year still had trouble believing I never had to change the battery in it. I suppose the technology was continuing to mature all along and things were getting sorted as they went, but truly mainstream acceptance from the general public, I might even say that has really only happened in the last 5 yrs or so (at least around here, I'm sure places like California were well along before us). Now many people are comfortable to want one, not just the people willing to take a chance like I was. I suppose in hindsight I was a bit lucky considering both my Camry and RX were 1st year models, and very early 1st year models too. The major annoying thing about them was the brakes (regen to mechanical handoff). The Camry was really annoying at times (as was the Prius as they had recalls on this very issue), the RX was much better, but never was as good as the brakes on my gas NX. I see some here still not happy with the hybrid NX brakes, it remains a design challenge I guess. Other than the occasional but fairly rare inverter or battery pack failure I heard about over the years, I think the biggest issue these cars had was actually the engine. The 3rd gen Prius and Lexus CT (and possibly the Lexus HS), along with some Camry had massive issues with oil burning, head gaskets, and clogged intakes (EGR). Toyota really pooped the bed with those. A colleague bought a Camry couple yrs after I based on my good experience, but he ended up with one of the oil burners. Fill up the oil and check the gas
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