Digital Key
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Card? If you are referring to the card type key fob, well that is a regular key fob just without buttons. Its not a "digital key" as such. But you certainly can use both interchangably if you choose. The digital key on a phone does tend to be a bit finicky, whereas the regular fob type keys (whether traditional or card type) are usually very reliable.
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Card? If you are referring to the card type key fob, well that is a regular key fob just without buttons. Its not a "digital key" as such. But you certainly can use both interchangably if you choose. The digital key on a phone does tend to be a bit finicky, whereas the regular fob type keys (whether traditional or card type) are usually very reliable.
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Oddly though, my notifications (doors, windows open) continue to work all the time, regardless of the app status.
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Key Fob usability
Digital Key and CC like key has some limitations.
1. Unlock doors when approaching vehicle
2. Find my car using alarm (okay I must be old
3. What to do when using a Valet Parking
4. Only usable when in vehicle (or am I missing something)
1. Unlock doors when approaching vehicle
2. Find my car using alarm (okay I must be old
3. What to do when using a Valet Parking
4. Only usable when in vehicle (or am I missing something)
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I posted this on the other digital key thread:
I am sceptical of it's reliability as others have said. Phone dies, no cell service, app craps out. I mean here we are fussing this out and two of the worlds biggest companies haven't invested much of anything on this to solve these inherently week capabilities of this system. I'm sure they both are claiming technical safeguards are at the root of this, which interprets as Toyota doesn't trust Apple and Apple doesn't trust Toyota! However I can put a credit card on my phone and it works 99.99% of the time, no matter what happens to updates on my phone. Face ID is supposed to be extremely difficult to hack, so is fingerprints and Apple's encryption methods. Yet here we sit, concerned about it's ability to faithfully open our car door when we ask it too. I honestly think if a company like Toyota tasked Apple with theft prevention techniques for our cars they'd have it nailed pretty quick!!
Learning of the details from LSFT on how you receive alerts for your door locks and windows was interesting. I feel that this method for my use, is really slow I mean really slow, in reality. I've went into a store let's say with my doors unlocked, and about 15-20 minutes later I get told about it. Well I'm pretty sure a thief works much faster than that! Even a bad thief at that, could empty my items from the car in less than 30 seconds, so that's not that helpful.
I am sceptical of it's reliability as others have said. Phone dies, no cell service, app craps out. I mean here we are fussing this out and two of the worlds biggest companies haven't invested much of anything on this to solve these inherently week capabilities of this system. I'm sure they both are claiming technical safeguards are at the root of this, which interprets as Toyota doesn't trust Apple and Apple doesn't trust Toyota! However I can put a credit card on my phone and it works 99.99% of the time, no matter what happens to updates on my phone. Face ID is supposed to be extremely difficult to hack, so is fingerprints and Apple's encryption methods. Yet here we sit, concerned about it's ability to faithfully open our car door when we ask it too. I honestly think if a company like Toyota tasked Apple with theft prevention techniques for our cars they'd have it nailed pretty quick!!
Learning of the details from LSFT on how you receive alerts for your door locks and windows was interesting. I feel that this method for my use, is really slow I mean really slow, in reality. I've went into a store let's say with my doors unlocked, and about 15-20 minutes later I get told about it. Well I'm pretty sure a thief works much faster than that! Even a bad thief at that, could empty my items from the car in less than 30 seconds, so that's not that helpful.
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