Please, help me understand...
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Success? on LX line? Probably not. If you have been on a recent shopping trip of large SUV it would be pretty disheartening to any LX fan. For example, LX is typically marked down with $5K discount below MSRP while brands like Mercedes GL450/550 are commanding a $3k-5k premium over the MSRP. I know it sounds crazy, but the market, as a collective voice, has spoken in favor of other brands. As a Lexus loyalist I just do not want to see it going the way like an Oldsmobile which became an old folks car...
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Success? on LX line? Probably not. If you have been on a recent shopping trip of large SUV it would be pretty disheartening to any LX fan. For example, LX is typically marked down with $5K discount below MSRP while brands like Mercedes GL450/550 are commanding a $3k-5k premium over the MSRP. I know it sounds crazy, but the market, as a collective voice, has spoken in favor of other brands. As a Lexus loyalist I just do not want to see it going the way like an Oldsmobile which became an old folks car...
Pit Crew
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Success? on LX line? Probably not. If you have been on a recent shopping trip of large SUV it would be pretty disheartening to any LX fan. For example, LX is typically marked down with $5K discount below MSRP while brands like Mercedes GL450/550 are commanding a $3k-5k premium over the MSRP. I know it sounds crazy, but the market, as a collective voice, has spoken in favor of other brands. As a Lexus loyalist I just do not want to see it going the way like an Oldsmobile which became an old folks car...
If you are paying over sticker for a Mercedes GL you are a fool. The GL and LX are both discounted roughly the same amount as a percentage off of sticker.
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The market has spoken, Lexus should be more like Acura.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...es-into-second
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...es-into-second
Lead Lap
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The market has spoken, Lexus should be more like Acura.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...es-into-second
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...es-into-second
Does that mean Lexus should start producing vehicles with huge panel gaps, crappy transmissions, and of course the worlds most confusing dual display infotainment systems?
I`d buy one of those
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Something needs to change.
Pole Position
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No transfer case + unibody = Not for me.
The diesel option looks interesting...problem is you've got to buy the rest of the car. Reliability is not in keeping with price nor close to that of the 200 series.
Still, MB fans will continue to buy MB's.
Meh.
The diesel option looks interesting...problem is you've got to buy the rest of the car. Reliability is not in keeping with price nor close to that of the 200 series.
Still, MB fans will continue to buy MB's.
Meh.
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Lead Lap
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From: In your head
I do think the GLS is offered with an offroad package which does have low-range gearbox and a locking center differential.
FWIW, the average GLS buyer or LX buyer typically owns the vehicle for max warranty (not saying everyone jsut the average). In that time frame, if your leasing or owning, reliability will play second fiddle unless the buyer has had some TERRRIBLE times with a marque.
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Pole Position
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As a previous GL owner I can attest that GL/GLS is indeed a POS. But sales figures in US tell a vastly different story: GLS sales in the latest month of April 2016: 2991; LX in the entire year of 2015: 3884. It makes me scratch my head.
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I do not think that Lexus is in the business to beat MB. I will admit that I see more and more MB units and they have really marketed their brand well. The problem is most will never buy another after their first. The GL is an impressive vehicle but for dependability I will take my LX anyday.
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I do not think that Lexus is in the business to beat MB. I will admit that I see more and more MB units and they have really marketed their brand well. The problem is most will never buy another after their first. The GL is an impressive vehicle but for dependability I will take my LX anyday.
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Have you seen the Starting Prices on both vehicles?GLS450=$66K
LX570=$66K+1 Decently equipped CLA.
So where do I collect my prize for solving another puzzle?
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I have owned one and know others who did and all will agree with me.
You must travel with "special" people!
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The GL is also a better alternative for a minivan (which is the main customer base for that vehicle), the third row is better than the LX and so is the cargo room due to the unibody/IRS. With the large percentage of leases for the GL, most are not too concerned with long term reliability