Purchased a 2016 ES 300h Saturday...also have a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser and the sales manager told me there is an "incentive" coming on the 2015 LXs...post Dec to Rem in January.

Unfortunately, not sure I want to spring for price of LX...even with an incentive. Would have to be pretty strong TomMartin

Any idea what the incentives are? Currently, my dealer will take about $11K off msrp of $92K which is about $81K plus TTL. What are your thoughts?

As a benchmark, that takes the price to around msrp for a '15 Land Cruiser.

Steve

not sure why one would choose a 2015. 2016 interior is so much finer. I drove a 2016 demo, quiet as a tomb. I want.

a 15k difference in current market price might tip it one way or another for buyers

Well, the moment you drive it off the lot, its worth about $70k, if that...

When I was closing on a '16 ES for my wife yesterday I asked about a new (0 miles) 2014 LX that the dealership had recently sold. He indicated "about $75K". Not sure how accurate that was but about 6 months ago he threw out $80K for the 2014 after he heard my 2004 Toyota LC has 170K miles

My thought is that the 2015 Land Cruisers are going to sell below $70K for those dealers that want to clear them off their lots...maybe not much below $70K? Your thoughts? My guess is that $70K on the Land Cruiser version will be about as good as you get???

A couple of months ago I had an offer of $70K on a Dealer President Demo with 10K miles...

TomMartin

P.S. I have no idea WHAT the "factory incentive" might be...dealer said wait until 01/04/16 TMR

It's definitely no $15K "so much finer". :roll eyes:

Not to mention a front end that will age better than a '16 as well as a better transmission.

Steve

I agree. In my case I am very comfortable with a '15 Land Cruiser assuming whatever amount of MSRP reduction and factory money that it is likely that a "new" 2015 LC will still be hopefully $10K less than a "new '15 LX??

I guess it is soon time to start looking at the inventory out there. I hope there are lots of '15 LCs still in stock??

TomMartin

Be patient and willing to travel...they tend to go fast.

Steve

so what's the incentive?

It looks like January 2016 has deeper discounts. From 92K msrp to 78K with the "potential for a few more if you come into the dealer." Someone said $15K off MSRP, and I think that is about right. Plus TTL which is about $4800. That means you can get a new 15' LX570 for ~$82.8K drive out price. Is that a good deal yet?

that's what dealership told you? i think that's a bit more discount than last month. i think 91-92k cars had been discounted to close to 80k last month, so now it's another 2k off and maybe a bit more

Yup. That is what the dealer sale person said. My wife said, $78K drive out price, and she will sign the paperwork with a gray/black combo. I believe most 15' in the Houston area is msrp at 92,745 which includes MK audio and pre-collision. Outside that, there's not much other option except for remote start and a few accessories.

Is she reasonable or wishful thinking?

78k otd in tx, that's 73k selling price? that's a bit hard i think