I have finally seen one!!!
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I have finally seen one!!!
I saw one (silver/grey) at a dealer--just arrived today. Looked at it for about an hour with my salesperson.
Trust me when I say it looks better in person than in pictures...especially the front end.
Im still not too crazy about the back, but it does look better in person than in pics.
Interior is just perfect.
I plan on ordering mine in the next week.
Trust me when I say it looks better in person than in pictures...especially the front end.
Im still not too crazy about the back, but it does look better in person than in pics.
Interior is just perfect.
I plan on ordering mine in the next week.
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Disappointed
Finally my local Lexus dealer received three, all have been sold.
Nevertheless I sat in the Mercury Metallic exterior with the Cashmere interior completely loaded for about 15 minutes, just looking around the beautiful interior , comfortable seats but the doohickey that I really wanted to feel was a total disappointment . The front seat extension does not extend, however goes up and down just like the ES when it should be like the LS.
Another thing the rear quarter windows and the rear window are not dark like the previous models.
Lexus lost me as a LX570 buyer.
By choosing either the 2008 Land Cruiser or maybe the 2008 Sequoia I will be saving a very huge bundle of $$,$$$$.$$.
Nevertheless I sat in the Mercury Metallic exterior with the Cashmere interior completely loaded for about 15 minutes, just looking around the beautiful interior , comfortable seats but the doohickey that I really wanted to feel was a total disappointment . The front seat extension does not extend, however goes up and down just like the ES when it should be like the LS.
Another thing the rear quarter windows and the rear window are not dark like the previous models.
Lexus lost me as a LX570 buyer.
By choosing either the 2008 Land Cruiser or maybe the 2008 Sequoia I will be saving a very huge bundle of $$,$$$$.$$.
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From: SoCal
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Now dont get me wrong. I love Lexus and everything they built including the 570. But the Escalade is also in the same class as most people say it is not.
The Escalade has a 6.2 V8 w/ 403hp 417tq
The 570 has a 5.7 V8 w/ 383hp 403tq
Both cars are very classy looking cars and have an unlimited number of features.
This is now just my opinion = Even if the price was the same, I would prefer the Cadillac, It just has a nicer and fuller SUV look to me. Very comfortable/soft like the 570 would probably have too. But I think the Cadillac is a much better buy then the 570, considering a 17,000 dollar difference in price. Just my opinion
My uncle and my gf's dad have 2007 Escalades. And man do those things get attention and feel good to drive.
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Your opinion, you got that right as I personally would take a Highlander over an Escalade any day. Yes, A little Highlander. That is my opinion of a Cadi especially the Escalade. Not sure what it is but when I see them on the road the first thought that pops up is budget SUV along with other items that I would rather not post on here. They just have this stigma about them, perhaps too much MTV & Eminem growing up.
Of course the Escalade costs 3 times the Highlander but not 3 times better. But thats my worthless subjective opinion.
Oh, and I will take that 5.7 over the 6.2 anyday, do you really want to start comparing specs like towing capacity (7700 vs. 8500) , no front side impact air bags available! 
(keep your HIDS) ,etc...? As you mentioned the motor specs , the LX produces it's 403lbs at 3600rpm vs the Cadi's 417 at 4400 rpm. Pretty much a wash to me. Still, both good engines.
On the issue of price, again your off here, the LX is AWD standard , the Cadi you quoted is 2wd. The Escalade AWD start at $59340.00 not $56k as you quoted.
Plus I would ask that you sit in a Cadi and compare the interior to even your RX. Look at the fit and finish, body panel gaps, door panel gaps,etc.. If that matters to you. Some do not care about build quality and only care about the surface impression and not the details. Again, to each their own.
But, I do wish the LX was not so rounded but since I am not in the market for one at this time-matters little to me.
Of course the Escalade costs 3 times the Highlander but not 3 times better. But thats my worthless subjective opinion.
Oh, and I will take that 5.7 over the 6.2 anyday, do you really want to start comparing specs like towing capacity (7700 vs. 8500) , no front side impact air bags available! (keep your HIDS) ,etc...? As you mentioned the motor specs , the LX produces it's 403lbs at 3600rpm vs the Cadi's 417 at 4400 rpm. Pretty much a wash to me. Still, both good engines.On the issue of price, again your off here, the LX is AWD standard , the Cadi you quoted is 2wd. The Escalade AWD start at $59340.00 not $56k as you quoted.
Plus I would ask that you sit in a Cadi and compare the interior to even your RX. Look at the fit and finish, body panel gaps, door panel gaps,etc.. If that matters to you. Some do not care about build quality and only care about the surface impression and not the details. Again, to each their own.
But, I do wish the LX was not so rounded but since I am not in the market for one at this time-matters little to me.
Last edited by Pearlpower; Jan 9, 2008 at 08:40 PM.
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Cadillac in same class as LX470?? Not even the 470.
Escalade issues:
No bluetooth
No 4-Lo gearing
No electric steering wheel control--only notching, and no telescoping
No passenger outside mirror automatic dimming
Plastic galore all over doors and dash
Major wind noise issue (just google it and see)
Engine is great--but not at all a very smooth transmission with acceleration
Center console is very flimsy
No height control
No aux. port for ipod
Reliability not as good as Lexus
Practically no off road capability compared to LX
Escalade issues:
No bluetooth
No 4-Lo gearing
No electric steering wheel control--only notching, and no telescoping
No passenger outside mirror automatic dimming
Plastic galore all over doors and dash
Major wind noise issue (just google it and see)
Engine is great--but not at all a very smooth transmission with acceleration
Center console is very flimsy
No height control
No aux. port for ipod
Reliability not as good as Lexus
Practically no off road capability compared to LX
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Your opinion, you got that right as I personally would take a Highlander over an Escalade any day. Yes, A little Highlander. That is my opinion of a Cadi especially the Escalade. Not sure what it is but when I see them on the road the first thought that pops up is budget SUV along with other items that I would rather not post on here. They just have this stigma about them, perhaps too much MTV & Eminem growing up.
Of course the Escalade costs 3 times the Highlander but not 3 times better. But thats my worthless subjective opinion.
Oh, and I will take that 5.7 over the 6.2 anyday, do you really want to start comparing specs like towing capacity (7700 vs. 8500) , no front side impact air bags available! (keep your HIDS) ,etc...? As you mentioned the motor specs , the LX produces it's 403lbs at 3600rpm vs the Cadi's 417 at 4400 rpm. Pretty much a wash to me. Still, both good engines.
On the issue of price, again your off here, the LX is AWD standard , the Cadi you quoted is 2wd. The Escalade AWD start at $59340.00 not $56k as you quoted.
Plus I would ask that you sit in a Cadi and compare the interior to even your RX. Look at the fit and finish, body panel gaps, door panel gaps,etc.. If that matters to you. Some do not care about build quality and only care about the surface impression and not the details. Again, to each their own.
But, I do wish the LX was not so rounded but since I am not in the market for one at this time-matters little to me.
Of course the Escalade costs 3 times the Highlander but not 3 times better. But thats my worthless subjective opinion.
Oh, and I will take that 5.7 over the 6.2 anyday, do you really want to start comparing specs like towing capacity (7700 vs. 8500) , no front side impact air bags available! (keep your HIDS) ,etc...? As you mentioned the motor specs , the LX produces it's 403lbs at 3600rpm vs the Cadi's 417 at 4400 rpm. Pretty much a wash to me. Still, both good engines.On the issue of price, again your off here, the LX is AWD standard , the Cadi you quoted is 2wd. The Escalade AWD start at $59340.00 not $56k as you quoted.
Plus I would ask that you sit in a Cadi and compare the interior to even your RX. Look at the fit and finish, body panel gaps, door panel gaps,etc.. If that matters to you. Some do not care about build quality and only care about the surface impression and not the details. Again, to each their own.
But, I do wish the LX was not so rounded but since I am not in the market for one at this time-matters little to me.
1) Would you consider the Escalade AWD in the same level as the Lexus LX570?
2) Do you think both cars are fairly priced?
3) Do you think some future luxury suv shoppers would take the Escalade over the LX570 due to pricing (13k more)?
I see where your coming from with the quality and I respect what your saying cause its true. But I have a few of questions for you...
1) Would you consider the Escalade AWD in the same level as the Lexus LX570?
Nope, again I am bias here as I really do dislike Escalades so my opinion on that would not matter much to others. I would prefer a Denali or Suburban to an Escalade.
2) Do you think both cars are fairly priced?
Lexus is not know to be a budget Cadi, never has, but Cadi has that stigma of being a budget Lexus. Pricing plays a part in that. Some could make the same argument about the LS vs the STS. So opinion on price is subjective and IMO everything is overpriced these days-whether Honda, Lexus, or Cadi but for someone in the market for a LX they will purchase one. For someone in the market for a Cadillac they will purchase that. Both will sell.
3) Do you think some future luxury suv shoppers would take the Escalade over the LX570 due to pricing (13k more)?
Again, your trying to compare the two and I do not believe Cadillac is a competitor in any right to Lexus. Of course Cadillac and a few others will disagree. There are those that dislike domestic vehicles and those that feel the same about Lexus. If I was in the market for a 65k vehicle and 13k made a difference between what I wanted and what I could afford then I should be shopping for a Rav4 as 13k should not make a difference at that price point. Some will blow everything they have to own a top of the line SUV and eat Taco Bell all day long (I know a few) while those that Lexus is catering to are not hampered by 13 or even a 20k difference. Will it affect some, sure it will. Does Lexus care about those? Doubtful. Again, Lexus is not trying to go after the Cadillac crowd IMO. I believe I read somewhere that the income target segment for the LX is the 350k annual range, doubt the same goes for the Cadi.
Again, I am very biased against the Escalade so my opinions are to be taken very lightly. I even feel ,"dirty" riding in one. Again, why? Never really though about it. Really do not care. Other than Fords of which I have experience in, Escalades rate right there with cars that I simply could not find myself in. If the Escalade was $5000 I would still pass it up. I'm strange that way. Some feel the same about the LX I'm sure.
Nothing against GM, just Escalades. I would enjoy a drive in an CTS-V anytime.
1) Would you consider the Escalade AWD in the same level as the Lexus LX570?
Nope, again I am bias here as I really do dislike Escalades so my opinion on that would not matter much to others. I would prefer a Denali or Suburban to an Escalade.
2) Do you think both cars are fairly priced?
Lexus is not know to be a budget Cadi, never has, but Cadi has that stigma of being a budget Lexus. Pricing plays a part in that. Some could make the same argument about the LS vs the STS. So opinion on price is subjective and IMO everything is overpriced these days-whether Honda, Lexus, or Cadi but for someone in the market for a LX they will purchase one. For someone in the market for a Cadillac they will purchase that. Both will sell.
3) Do you think some future luxury suv shoppers would take the Escalade over the LX570 due to pricing (13k more)?
Again, your trying to compare the two and I do not believe Cadillac is a competitor in any right to Lexus. Of course Cadillac and a few others will disagree. There are those that dislike domestic vehicles and those that feel the same about Lexus. If I was in the market for a 65k vehicle and 13k made a difference between what I wanted and what I could afford then I should be shopping for a Rav4 as 13k should not make a difference at that price point. Some will blow everything they have to own a top of the line SUV and eat Taco Bell all day long (I know a few) while those that Lexus is catering to are not hampered by 13 or even a 20k difference. Will it affect some, sure it will. Does Lexus care about those? Doubtful. Again, Lexus is not trying to go after the Cadillac crowd IMO. I believe I read somewhere that the income target segment for the LX is the 350k annual range, doubt the same goes for the Cadi.
Again, I am very biased against the Escalade so my opinions are to be taken very lightly. I even feel ,"dirty" riding in one. Again, why? Never really though about it. Really do not care. Other than Fords of which I have experience in, Escalades rate right there with cars that I simply could not find myself in. If the Escalade was $5000 I would still pass it up. I'm strange that way. Some feel the same about the LX I'm sure.
Nothing against GM, just Escalades. I would enjoy a drive in an CTS-V anytime.
Last edited by Pearlpower; Jan 9, 2008 at 11:02 PM.
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You can get Sequoia and save a lot of money compared to Caddy... Then you can get Rav4 and save a lot of money compare to Sequoia... And then, why do yo need glorified wagon when xA will suffice for a lot less money?
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Actually I over reacted. " Lexus lost me as a LX570 buyer " , no no .
I still own the 2006 LX470 with low mileage and excellent condition.
I should get a set of Michelin's Latitude HP tires and then wait for all the reviews and all the test drives and the customers opinions.
In a few months or next December 2008 sales, I might have a change of heart.
I still own the 2006 LX470 with low mileage and excellent condition.
I should get a set of Michelin's Latitude HP tires and then wait for all the reviews and all the test drives and the customers opinions.
In a few months or next December 2008 sales, I might have a change of heart.
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When did Caddy become a Lexus wannabe??!! I do not even think Caddy is going after Lexus image...not even close! Most of Caddy's current energy is going after BMW and, to a lesser extent, Mercedes. Caddy, for the most part, is the budget BMW. The Escalade is a different animal than most German and Japanese SUVs...it is in a class with Lincoln Navigator, where major bling-bling meets gigantic size.