Notices
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

08 LS460L Adjustable suspension not ADJUSTING

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 30, 2020 | 07:31 PM
  #1  
derreckla's Avatar
derreckla
Thread Starter
Advanced
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 526
Likes: 42
From: california
Default 08 LS460L Adjustable suspension not ADJUSTING

I know been posting a lot of questions but where I live the Dealer is a mess....

The shocks on my 08 LS460L don't adjust meaning there is no difference between any of the settings AT ALL. My 2010 LS460 base with 205K miles with coils has smoother ride then my LS460L with Air and 80K miles so I know there's a problem.

Does anyone know how to test what the problem is? Any ideas would be helpful. Is there Fuses? All the lights fine on my dash when the buttons are pushed.

I tried to to just take it to the dealer in area where I live in Cali and they were a mess didn't know what they were doing. I live in Central valley cali and can travel. Does anyone know of anyone who's good who works on these in cali I will travel.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2020 | 11:14 PM
  #2  
Anfanger's Avatar
Anfanger
Pole Position
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 1,004
From: NH
Default

Just to clarify, when you switch to comfort or sport, you see corresponding light on your dash coming on, right? If that is the case, I would check the suspension regulator switch, fuses and relays. I will try to find locations of fuses and/or relays and update my post if nobody provides any relevant information.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:24 AM
  #3  
ausLX's Avatar
ausLX
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 281
Likes: 61
From: QLD
Default

If you have no error lights, and the correct dash light comes on when you switch suspension settings, then your suspension might be at the end of its life. My 08 had worn out air struts, and there was not much noticeable difference between the settings.
From what I have read here, the dampening is provided by oil chamber in the struts. If your struts are worn out, I don't think they can be fixed by just anyone. There is a company in Japan who actually rebuilds the stock air struts, they replace
everything inside with their own stiffer and stronger components, but it's not cheap. And you have to send your struts to them.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:34 AM
  #4  
jdanielca's Avatar
jdanielca
Pole Position
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,422
Likes: 220
From: Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by derreckla
I know been posting a lot of questions but where I live the Dealer is a mess....

The shocks on my 08 LS460L don't adjust meaning there is no difference between any of the settings AT ALL. My 2010 LS460 base with 205K miles with coils has smoother ride then my LS460L with Air and 80K miles so I know there's a problem.

Does anyone know how to test what the problem is? Any ideas would be helpful. Is there Fuses? All the lights fine on my dash when the buttons are pushed.

I tried to to just take it to the dealer in area where I live in Cali and they were a mess didn't know what they were doing. I live in Central valley cali and can travel. Does anyone know of anyone who's good who works on these in cali I will travel.
I had air now I am on factory coil.

if your ride is bad I assume you mean you have too much travel or play then it’s the mechanical strut issue the air strut is a bag that has a normal coil strut in the middle in this case it’s adjustable.

not related much to ride but does your height high work? It’s not really important because if the bag fails = new strut the shock absorber fails equals the same thing.

go to all four corners of the car try pushing the car up and down, if it moves easily you have a busted strut. Try all 4 corners and compare.

could also be the strut mount part delaminating from the truth lots of things can happen it’s not a well made strut imho compared with blisterin models made for euro cars which are more modular and rebuidable and safer due to a better mount design

go to the engine bay open the covers that seal the top of the strut with engine on etc have someone change the settings while you look at it, if you see or find oil in that area or we oil squirting lol out when the mode is changed well you know what’s wrong right there.

you have a few options
switch to whatever ready made struts
follow what I did go factory style
but Factory original from sone place like the UAE or US check eBay for under 600 a side . The fronts are not a difficult job at all an hour plus aside max what shop would charge who knows back a bit more involve due to set removal or partial dismantling
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:47 AM
  #5  
ausLX's Avatar
ausLX
Intermediate
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 281
Likes: 61
From: QLD
Default

Originally Posted by jdanielca
I had air now I am on factory coil.

if your ride is bad I assume you mean you have too much travel or play then it’s the mechanical strut issue the air strut is a bag that has a normal coil strut in the middle in this case it’s adjustable.

not related much to ride but does your height high work? It’s not really important because if the bag fails = new strut the shock absorber fails equals the same thing.

go to all four corners of the car try pushing the car up and down, if it moves easily you have a busted strut. Try all 4 corners and compare.

could also be the strut mount part delaminating from the truth lots of things can happen it’s not a well made strut imho compared with blisterin models made for euro cars which are more modular and rebuidable and safer due to a better mount design

go to the engine bay open the covers that seal the top of the strut with engine on etc have someone change the settings while you look at it, if you see or find oil in that area or we oil squirting lol out when the mode is changed well you know what’s wrong right there.

you have a few options
switch to whatever ready made struts
follow what I did go factory style
but Factory original from sone place like the UAE or US check eBay for under 600 a side . The fronts are not a difficult job at all an hour plus aside max what shop would charge who knows back a bit more involve due to set removal or partial dismantling

If you have an airbag failure, you'll know about it. The car is undriveable because it will be sitting on that wheel which is attached to the failed strut. There is a member here who had an airbag failure, first and only time I read about it happening.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:03 AM
  #6  
derreckla's Avatar
derreckla
Thread Starter
Advanced
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 526
Likes: 42
From: california
Default

Thanks everyone for their replies...

when you replaced your air with coil over factory how much were parts? What model numbers did you use?

THnaks
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:05 AM
  #7  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,820
Likes: 4,101
From: Maryland
Default

Do a forum search. We had a member here whos LS with air wound up having a disconnected actuator, which meant all 4 corners were on full damping all the time...no warning lights or anything.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:13 AM
  #8  
derreckla's Avatar
derreckla
Thread Starter
Advanced
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 526
Likes: 42
From: california
Default

Thanks if you could provide those that would be great, I have been having a fun time with my Ohm Meeter learning how to use it.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:16 AM
  #9  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,820
Likes: 4,101
From: Maryland
Default

Just do a search for "air suspension" in this forum and limit it to search thread topics, it will come up.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:16 AM
  #10  
derreckla's Avatar
derreckla
Thread Starter
Advanced
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 526
Likes: 42
From: california
Default

Thanks it rides really rough too going over bumps...
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 09:46 AM
  #11  
derreckla's Avatar
derreckla
Thread Starter
Advanced
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 526
Likes: 42
From: california
Default

I searched with criteria you suggested and came up with a lot of different posts...


If anyone who was a part of this discussion can post a quick link would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 11:15 AM
  #12  
jdanielca's Avatar
jdanielca
Pole Position
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,422
Likes: 220
From: Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by derreckla
Thanks everyone for their replies...

when you replaced your air with coil over factory how much were parts? What model numbers did you use?

THnaks
here’s sone advice if you can find springs in good condition and price you can buy them used, they cost 130 or so new. Never buy used struts waste of time and money. Unless they are rebuildable these are not

you can save quite a bit by buying Kyb strut mounts for front and back they are very cheap in the US, we don’t have them here so I had to buy Toyota branded parts. Which cost more. Essentially you can buy strut+mount for 150-200 or so, and that would usually include all the rubber bits too need. So excluding springs you can be done at 800 or less.

I paid a bit over 1000 usd to do all 4 sides in all factory parts, only thing that’s not exactly factory is the kyb which did not come with Toyota part number stickers.

this is just parts.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 12:00 PM
  #13  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,820
Likes: 4,101
From: Maryland
Default

This is the thread I'm talking about

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...s-comfort.html
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:31 PM
  #14  
derreckla's Avatar
derreckla
Thread Starter
Advanced
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 526
Likes: 42
From: california
Default

Thanks again
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
derreckla
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017)
16
Feb 8, 2021 07:52 PM
jimxms2
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017)
21
Jan 17, 2021 05:57 AM
gte819s
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017)
94
Jun 10, 2020 05:17 AM
ninjas
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017)
2
Jul 10, 2013 12:56 AM
way2late
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017)
30
Dec 15, 2007 02:24 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:56 PM.