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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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Hi all,

Although it is not winter yet I'm looking to buy a summer set up for next year. So I scrolled through the whole wheels topic and already asked around in my area at wheel shops. Well that turned out pretty bad, got comments like;
- Wheels are not available in 21''
- You are not allowed to get bigger then 20'' on a Lexus, if you get in an accident, insurance companies will not pay out. Ow and we have some 20'' available.
- We have a set available but wheels and tires are 7000 euro ( roughly 7700 dollar)

So basicly I told them to not bull**** the bull****ter and started looking outside of The Netherlands.

The wheels I have my eyes on at the moment are Vossen HF-3 in the color Satin Bronze. My 2007 LS 460 has a kind of brown color and I think it will combine nice however, I have some questions regarding the tires:

-Most of you guys are running tires in the size 245/35/21 for the front and 285 or 295/30/21 at the back. Do you guys still have a big gap around the wheels?
- Is it possible to mount for example 245/40/21 on the front and 285 or 295/35/21 at the back? I don't care about the speedometer difference speed.
- Is the car still comfortable to drive with 21'' wheels. It is my daily and family car and don't want it to get uncomfortable
- My LS 460 has air suspension and is on standard height, so I also don't like anything to rub, nor do I want to change something at the fenders and or suspension.
-My budget for wheels and tires is around 3700 dollar, this should be possible or is this too less.

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Eric
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 10:36 AM
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I had 245/35/21 on my 2009 600h, i hated the ride, it was too bumpy so i changed them to 245/40/21. The speedo is now exact and the ride is much smoother.
No problems in corners or over speedbumps with my OEM air.
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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And another one: Do not buy expensive rims, i noticed you are from the Netherlands and the streets are narrow. Borbets are good rims and affordable. (but will also get curbrash). I still remember the sound the first time i scraped the curbs. Brrrrrr.....
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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What are your tire sizes Higgie? I’m assuming you have a staggered setup yes?
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 11:56 AM
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245/40/21 front and rear.

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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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Rears look like they can fit even larger tires. Not sure what the next size up is. 245/45? 250/40?
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 05:57 PM
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Why stop at 21? You can go all the way to 42” with the correct amount of motivation. Maybe 24” will give you the look you desire.
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265/30/21 HRE P101



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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:54 PM
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265/30/21 HRE P101
I haven’t seen your full vehicle. Did you black out your chrome trim along the doors? Or is it black chrome?
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Originally Posted by 3GSShoe
I haven’t seen your full vehicle. Did you black out your chrome trim along the doors? Or is it black chrome?

It’s gloss black vinyl
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 12:44 AM
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Just some reply from my side:

@Higgie,
We already had contact on the Dutch forum, you have all the same size wheels around, where I would like to get the rears wider. Maybe I have to let my idea go and also put all the same sizes around, since not every tiresize is avalible and I don't want different tires in the front and back.
Regarding The Netherlands, my car gets parked in my garage, parking garages and or open spaces so not so much curb problems.

@sdl s,
English is not my native language, but these notes in my original post provide the answers on your question:
- Is the car still comfortable to drive with 21'' wheels. It is my daily and family car and don't want it to get uncomfortable
- My LS 460 has air suspension and is on standard height, so I also don't like anything to rub, nor do I want to change something at the fenders and or suspension.
Next to this I see a lot of secondhand 22'' wheels for sale, which tells me they are too big and give too less comfort.

@prsuit 460,
First of all your car looks stunning, I guess however you also got it lowerd. You even have less tire on the rims if I see your tiresize.
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@PRSUIT460 Is that the stainless steel wrap? I saw your car on youtube. If you have more photos of the spoiler, let me know. I can't seem to decide on anything! Or which brand it's from? I'm converting my LS460L into a sport front end FYI.
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Originally Posted by 3GSShoe
@PRSUIT460 Is that the stainless steel wrap? I saw your car on youtube. If you have more photos of the spoiler, let me know. I can't seem to decide on anything! Or which brand it's from? I'm converting my LS460L into a sport front end FYI.
Yes it is brushed titanium! I'd have to get more pics. I got the spoiler from DAR or Ebay, not sure.
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@PRSUIT460 Also, did you wrap your bumper extension (the part that holds the tow hook cover? I can't tell if that's the stock color or that it's all wrapped. The grill is still the stock dark gunmetal color or was it painted gloss black also?
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Originally Posted by PRSUIT460

It’s gloss black vinyl

what are your front and back tire setups? Did you need spacers? Does it rub? How is the ride? Would love to pull 21’s on my 14 F-sport. Thanks!
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