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Old 05-14-19, 05:13 PM
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Can anyone tell me if a 2010 sport model drives noticeably different than my 08 base car? Body roll in particular

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I can't answer about the 2010 Fsport, but I can tell you that my wife's 2015 Fsport has significantly less body roll than my 2011 base. Of course, the tires make a difference as well. She has Pirelli P Zero Neros and I have some Dunlop All Seasons.
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The 2010 Sport has adjustable air shocks and 19" wheels so it definitely drives differently.
If you want to improve base model handling, get 19's and upgrade the shocks to KYB Gas a Just shocks. These 2 made my Ls460 drive less like an old Lincoln Towncar
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Originally Posted by JLAWS
The 2010 Sport has adjustable air shocks and 19" wheels so it definitely drives differently.
If you want to improve base model handling, get 19's and upgrade the shocks to KYB Gas a Just shocks. These 2 made my Ls460 drive less like an old Lincoln Towncar
I have the shocks here now, am adding the 2010 bars at the same time as I redo the front control arms.

list of changes needed. I due time
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With the differences in suspension, the Sport/FSport models also have a specific VGRS tune (steering) to help counter that body roll.

Figs has some UCA super pro bushings. I’m running the version with 0.75 +/- camber adjustment.
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Originally Posted by VanCityLS4
With the differences in suspension, the Sport/FSport models also have a specific VGRS tune (steering) to help counter that body roll.

Figs has some UCA super pro bushings. I’m running the version with 0.75 +/- camber adjustment.
I just put a figs front bar on our sc430. Driven it less than five miles since.

long ago I built up a 58 vette to end up with a triple carb 427 engine in it.

slightly noise heavy from the iron motor. Tesla dual fast. Scary top end. Went into fourth at 150.
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Originally Posted by VanCityLS4
With the differences in suspension, the Sport/FSport models also have a specific VGRS tune (steering) to help counter that body roll.

Figs has some UCA super pro bushings. I’m running the version with 0.75 +/- camber adjustment.


how do you like the figs bushings?? i just bought the oem replacement version of their bushings and will install them in the next few weeks.
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Originally Posted by VanCityLS4
With the differences in suspension, the Sport/FSport models also have a specific VGRS tune (steering) to help counter that body roll.

Figs has some UCA super pro bushings. I’m running the version with 0.75 +/- camber adjustment.

The camber adjustment offset is done before pressing the bushing or after ? .
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Just installed the new KYB aftermarket struts in my 2007 LWB. They have substantially helped with the body roll although still not fabulous.

Swapping bushings will have limited, if any, benefits. Stiffer springs and/or firmer anti-roll bars would help the most.
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Originally Posted by FunFact
The only Tesla that thing would match is one that is doing 0-60 in above 4 second, such as the P70D. Having driven the P85D and P100D, your old Corvette didn't stand a chance because even a built 427 today is going to struggle to match those acceleration numbers. The C6Z in stock form will not match that, not without perfect drag strip conditions. And that car is way faster than a 58 Corvette.
People vastly overestimate what their old cars were capable of, most of them being 13 or 14 second cars in the quarter mile that magically got faster over time with memory.
Tire technology held our old cars back I think.

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Originally Posted by ALK
The camber adjustment offset is done before pressing the bushing or after ? .
Before. It’s hard to tell a difference because they were installed the same time as my Fortune 500 and Swift springs.
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Originally Posted by VanCityLS4
Before. It’s hard to tell a difference because they were installed the same time as my Fortune 500 and Swift springs.
How do you like the coil overs?? i have been looking at those too.... how do they ride on a day to day basis??

my favorite set up i ever had was on my IS300. i had Tokiko Illuminas on Tein S tech springs. they were "soft" enough for daily use and stiff enough for some spirited driving...
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I think it’s well balanced and rides pretty good for the height I’m at. The Fortune Auto 500s are nice paired with 14k and 10k Swift springs. It was over 2k in suspension parts so I was expecting it to be much better than the BC Racing set ups in my LS400 and LS430. No complaints so far.

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I have a 2010 Sport and a 2012 Base, the sports model just has a firmer ride. My father in law likes the 2012, its a bit easier on his back.
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I've got a 2010 Sport. When I test drove it I didn't think the performance between Comfort-Normal-Sport were that noticeable. Mostly I wanted the wonderful Brembro brakes. It was only after I bought it and found myself on a long dark drive down the high speed mountain curves that I noticed much difference - and it was considerable. Not only does the suspension stiffen up but the steering becomes vastly more accurate and consistent. A hundered miles of this and I was delighted with the car.

My local roads have suffered from lack of upkeep so I have also come to appreciate the Comfort setting.

I do think the regular LS suspension is a good and appropriate setup for most drivers. If you get serious you might look on the Lexus site at the many differences between the regular LS and the Sport. There are so many they are rarely listed.
Good luck and have fun.


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