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I was about to buy a 2019 ES 350 with loaded over the December to Remember event
about 50 k plus taxes and fees.
my payment would have been around 649 month for a lease 15,000 miles
I have been going back and forth between my wifes 5 series and my new LS 460 and i am getting spoiled
what's so amazing is the small details
the buttons
the radio
the ac system flawless
the quietness
the highway presence
the sweet v8 when you press in
the great brakes
the neutral handling on off ramps when driving normal
the brake hold and lounge chair for a front seat
went to stop by dealer today for something and sat in the same car that i was going to purchase
night and day difference its not in the same league
the seats also felt hard as a rock in comparison to what i love about the ls460
even the room in the ls460 is amazing left to right and up and down
sat in a ls500 which i happen to love the look in and out and its too claustrophobic.
picking these decent mileage Ls's at 15-20 k is probably the best bargain on the new and used market
nothing compares
I was about to buy a 2019 ES 350 with loaded over the December to Remember event
about 50 k plus taxes and fees.
my payment would have been around 649 month for a lease 15,000 miles
I have been going back and forth between my wifes 5 series and my new LS 460 and i am getting spoiled
what's so amazing is the small details
the buttons
the radio
the ac system flawless
the quietness
the highway presence
the sweet v8 when you press in
the great brakes
the neutral handling on off ramps when driving normal
the brake hold and lounge chair for a front seat
went to stop by dealer today for something and sat in the same car that i was going to purchase
night and day difference its not in the same league
the seats also felt hard as a rock in comparison to what i love about the ls460
even the room in the ls460 is amazing left to right and up and down
sat in a ls500 which i happen to love the look in and out and its too claustrophobic.
picking these decent mileage Ls's at 15-20 k is probably the best bargain on the new and used market
nothing compares
amazing stuff
yup, exactly it makes much more sense to buy a gently used car for a good price,
Best $15k-$20K bang for the buck hands down. I had cash to put down on something newer and more expensive or get something new and boring with no car note. My 2008 purchased in 2017 was the responsible buy and scratch my luxury car itch
Just spent 6 days driving a 19’ ES350 loaner while I was having work done to my 13’ 460 L. I cannot believe how much I missed my car. I have owned 2 ES and another LS in the past but this was the biggest shocker for me. The ES is a great car but it cannot be compared to the LS. The FWD alone makes it feel like a much cheaper car. And the interior space difference between my 460L and the ES is staggering.
I know what you mean. I've been having some vibration problems that have been like chasing a ghost. Took it to the Lexus dealer in Southlake with no help. Took a look at the newer models on the showroom floor while I waited for it to come out of service, and realized that I would rather spend hours and thousands to get my 2007 LS460 L back in showroom shape than buy one of these new over priced claustrophobic versions. I bet our predecessors said the same about the old models from the past. Maybe I'm getting old.
Best $15k-$20K bang for the buck hands down. I had cash to put down on something newer and more expensive or get something new and boring with no car note. My 2008 purchased in 2017 was the responsible buy and scratch my luxury car itch
YES, I do understand. I feel the same about my 2009 LS 460 L
I know what you mean. I've been having some vibration problems that have been like chasing a ghost. Took it to the Lexus dealer in Southlake with no help. Took a look at the newer models on the showroom floor while I waited for it to come out of service, and realized that I would rather spend hours and thousands to get my 2007 LS460 L back in showroom shape than buy one of these new over priced claustrophobic versions. I bet our predecessors said the same about the old models from the past. Maybe I'm getting old.
Thank you for writing this! I feel the same way about my 09 LS460 L/AWD!!!
Just spent 6 days driving a 19’ ES350 loaner while I was having work done to my 13’ 460 L. I cannot believe how much I missed my car. I have owned 2 ES and another LS in the past but this was the biggest shocker for me. The ES is a great car but it cannot be compared to the LS. The FWD alone makes it feel like a much cheaper car. And the interior space difference between my 460L and the ES is staggering.
I had this same experience when my LS was being serviced. Had a brand new ES and it drove very rough on the road. The interior, while nice, was just not the same standard.
while I know there is a difference in class, I thought the fit and finish of all Lexi would be about the same. Not so.
Very spoiled.
But so what? My 07 has only needed a starter and consumables. At 160k it's time for new struts.
Oooooohhhhh!!!
I wouldn't mind a 12 Sport package. 2005 tech and all!
The LS460 is a thing of absolute beauty and sure-footed (AWD) in all situations, with enough power to get you into trouble while having the brakes and tires needed to get you right back out of trouble.
Its technological aspects are also very impressive even today. And the chassis, the unibody, is really quite a LOT stiffer than the early gen LS.
But it just feels like Lexus cut costs with interior materials on this car vs. the 2nd gen. I can feel it. For example, the sunvisor. Look at the part of it on the back side where the cloth is joined together at the seam. It sticks out and presents a rough surface along the whole edge. That's trashy Kia-cheap. The LS400 had leather sunvisors that felt great. There are other complaints but this is just a minor example.
And we all know about the melty gooey dashboard. Mine has a ghetto sheen to it thats blinding in the sun but I'm afraid to take it to lexus because they might say "It isn't cracked and it isn't sticky enough. No soup for you! You pay me nao! $25,000 diagnostic fee! Plus tax and shop supplies and environmental fee!"