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Old Feb 4, 2019 | 03:33 PM
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I went with an Autozone Duralast battery and it has been working great for about 7 months. I like others on this forum don’t agree with high priced batteries. I’m an electrical engineer by trade working in Telecom. Lead acid batteries have weird quality control methods from the manufacturer. I’ve had expensive batteries go out quick and cheap batteries last 7 years. The overall average is ~4 years.

These expensive batteries aren’t worth the premium.

My advice, buy a battery with 30% more cranking amps than required and adjust for your temperature region (go up for colder climates), and get at least a 3-5 yr warranty depending on price and $$ comfort. Most batteries (thousands in our case) will go out within 4 years.

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Old Feb 5, 2019 | 04:11 AM
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After getting my 8-year-old original battery tested (it had 515 amps), I decided to go for this X2 Power Premium AGM BCI battery. At Batteries+ it has a free 5-year non-prorated warranty. Based on the research that I did, this battery doesn't use recycled lead like a lot of the other batteries, is American-made, and is super-heavy--59.5 pounds. It is about twice as heavy as other batteries. It also has more cold crank amps than any other battery that I could find, at 840.

https://www.batteriesplus.com/productdetails/sli24agmdp

If you order online, you get a 10% discount right off the top. I can't believe how much brighter my headlights appear and how the dashlights are brighter. I would be interested to know if anybody else has had experience with this battery.
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Old Feb 5, 2019 | 09:18 AM
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So, this is a good example of what I mean by the $$ comfort for peace of mind. There is no right or wrong answer, but it's important for people to have awareness and make a decision based on their own situation, location, and need for protection. So let's compare...

I just looked up the X2 Power Premium AGM Battery. This is a $309 battery minus $30 discount, so we'll call it $279, and we'll leave out taxes, core fees, labor (if any) for this example. BTW, this is a Good price for an AGM battery, but follow me...

X2: $279 / 5 years = $55.8 per year of warranty value, 840 CCA, full replacement no proration
Duralast Gold: $159/3yr = $53yr for 1-3yrs and prorated 4-5, 700 CCA

if Both batteries fail within 3yr, then either customer gets full replacement and X2 customer paid a 75% premium. if both fail at 4yr, then X2 gets full replacement and D-Gold gets a 50% prorated ($159 / 24 =$6.625 month x 12 months = $79.5), so X2 pays a 17% premium. The X2 becomes valuable if the battery dies in the sweet spot from 4yr up to 5yr. If the battery dies at 57 months, then the X2 gets full replacement and the D-Gold pays $139 for a replacement. So the D-Gold customer is out $298 and the X2 customer is seeing the benefit of his investment. On the other hand, If Both batteries die after 5 years, then both have full cost to replace and the clock restarts, only this time the margin of $$ separation in the cost of the batteries widens. Assuming the customer buys the same battery, then X2 is out $558 (assumes 10% discount comes back around) and D-Gold is out $318. That's $240 D-Gold savings over two batteries compared to X2. The D-Gold customer could buy a 3rd battery and still have saved money over the lifetime value.

So provided the CCA is sufficient with both batteries and this is simply a cost model, then D-Gold has the financial advantage in years 1-3 and post 5yr. The X2 only has the advantage at year 4 up to 5yr.

That said, like I commented in my previous post, a lot of batteries fail somewhere in that 4yr timeline. My battery suppliers know this and are trying to sell people that "insurance" of buying the higher rated battery and justifying the premium on the protection. It's a 1:5 dice roll and In my corporate technical experience, it's not worth it over the long term.

So it's like buying an insurance policy related to peace of mind and becomes a buyer's decision based on their situation, location, and need for protection. Everyone has their own needs and opinions, but it's best to know the math and make the decisions eyes wide open.

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Old Feb 5, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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Hi pvsmith, Is your car AWD? Did it fit just nice or you need some adjustment? Any special precautions before changing the batteries? Hoping not to lose all the presets, etc...
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 12:33 AM
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I guess i will go for diehard platinum. I asked at my local costco and was told they do not have compatible battery for 2014 LS 460 AWD... weird..
Sadly, I don't believe Sears sells the rebranded Odyssey batteries under the Diehard Platinum name any more.
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aw001
Hi pvsmith, Is your car AWD? Did it fit just nice or you need some adjustment? Any special precautions before changing the batteries? Hoping not to lose all the presets, etc...
I had to reset the radio presets and seat memory.
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KYLS
Sadly, I don't believe Sears sells the rebranded Odyssey batteries under the Diehard Platinum name any more.
Mainly because they are going out of business and won't be selling any batteries anymore
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 07:21 PM
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Looks like the new toyota true start brand batteries are not an option. Since no group 34 size. But do have 35 size

https://www.toyota.com/toyota-owners...nal%5B1%5D.pdf

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