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Old 03-13-17, 07:35 PM
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This is about the best I can do on my work computer. As you can see, I also purchased the end links. If you decide on these, keep in mind that there are online discount codes you can apply to your order. This one is good for 5% off your order: 5822665651593970

MAS SL64181 (Daily Driver) Front Left; OE Design

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MAS SL64182 (Daily Driver) Front Right; OE Design

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MAS CB64087 (Daily Driver) Complete Arm w/ Ball Joint Front Left Upper Forward

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MAS CB64224 (Daily Driver) Complete Arm w/ Ball Joint Front Right Lower Forward

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MAS CB64097 (Daily Driver) Complete Arm w/ Ball Joint Info Front Left Upper Rearward

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MAS CB64088 (Daily Driver) Complete Arm w/ Ball Joint Front Right Upper Forward

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MAS CB64098 (Daily Driver) Complete Arm w/ Ball Joint Front Right Upper Rearward

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MEVOTECH CMS861075 **#MS861075} (Daily Driver) Supreme Front Left Lower Rearward

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Old 03-13-17, 11:12 PM
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It's impossible to judge someone's wrenching abilities and tool assortment but in my opinion the control arm replacement job should be done by a real mechanic. By no means do they have to have ever touched a Lexus before. Separating the ball joints can be tricky and there's always problems. I don't think an alignment is needed unless your steering wheel is off. I didn't align my car after changing the struts and control arms and I have no problems.
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Originally Posted by tcarroll2
I'm about to dive into this project on my 07 LS460 as well. I see where I can buy all eight of the MAS control arms for $485 and change from Rock Auto. I'm planning to do this myself. I live near a military base that has an Auto Hobby shop with a car lift and all the non-specialty tools (I'm retired military) that would be specific to Lexus.

Do I need any Lexus specialty tools or additional parts to pull this off?
Is it necessary to change the shocks/struts at the same time?
Any pitfalls to watch for when doing this kind of work?
Will I need a wheel alignment afterwards? (I'm assuming yes, but thought I'd ask)

Thanks for your advice!

Tom
This a relatively easy DIY, IF you aren't replacing the ball joints. However, when replacing the control arms, often the ball joints will get damaged. You do not need to replace the shocks/struts, but since the suspension is already apart, I figured I'd do those too.

As for wheel alignment....to each their own, but for the extra 75 bucks after all that work...seemed like a no-brainer to me. The important thing to do is index (pre-load) everything before tightening everything up, or you'll be re-doing the control arms again.
Old 03-14-17, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by roadfrog
This a relatively easy DIY, IF you aren't replacing the ball joints. However, when replacing the control arms, often the ball joints will get damaged. You do not need to replace the shocks/struts, but since the suspension is already apart, I figured I'd do those too.

As for wheel alignment....to each their own, but for the extra 75 bucks after all that work...seemed like a no-brainer to me. The important thing to do is index (pre-load) everything before tightening everything up, or you'll be re-doing the control arms again.
+1 What my bud Chris states. When I had my uppers done in Dec. '15, I went ahead and got an alignment done. But in my case, I needed one, as my car wanted to track left. I also went ahead and had my tires rebalanced, as I was trying to rid the car of a slight shimmy at higher speeds.

Also, just to expound a bit on the indexing process, if not done, the bushing will be incorrectly positioned and some have reported that the car will sit higher than OEM-spec, due to the bushings being in a bound-up position and not in its natural performance state. As Chris stated, this will cause an incredibly rapid rate of wear on the bushings and they will have to be replaced much sooner than later, as the bushing will literally be "tearing" within themselves.
Old 03-14-17, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by roblex07
I also found some bushings for $77 for 10

https://www.1aauto.com/2007--lexus-l...tm_content=SFK

I am going to make sure these are not poly. I heard they are to rough and the ride will not be a lexus like
So, just sharing information...
When I had my uppers done at Lexus in Dec. '15, the SAM told me that the new revised OEM arms/bushing material was poly.
I was surprised to hear that, because as many of us know, poly bushings can be noisy and not last as long and some even require lubricating over time.
Now, again... taking into account that you, at times, you have to take what these dealership SA's/SAM's say with a grain of salt, your comment reminded me of that conversation I had with the SAM before my car went in for repair.
Just my 2 cents...
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Originally Posted by roadfrog
Rock Auto is slightly cheaper at $482. Plus, they're warranty is lifetime. They also use known manufacturers like Moog, MAS, Mevotech, etc. That said, I wouldn't have a problem with the source you provided as well. But for about the same price, I'd go Rockauto, as they are a reputed company with great reviews. I was very happy with them.
Oh dang, I just bought the OEM ones from an OE distributer and AZ Lexus dealer for about 1800 on all eight arms. I thought I got a good deal LOL
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Toyota doesn't have a factory that make these arms. They just source them and mark them up through the chain a couple times and they get to the inflated price. OEM parts make some people feel good though. Also pays for the free donuts and loaner cars.
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Originally Posted by Kennyr44
Toyota doesn't have a factory that make these arms. They just source them and mark them up through the chain a couple times and they get to the inflated price. OEM parts make some people feel good though. Also pays for the free donuts and loaner cars.
That pretty much sums it up. Someone posted that the OE factory arms are made in either China or Malaysia or India. They are definitely NOT made in Japan.
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Hello Roadfrog, Thanks for listing the SKUs. So for a complete fix, it requires 10 total part?. I thought there were 8 control arms total.
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Originally Posted by Wy807
Hello Roadfrog, Thanks for listing the SKUs. So for a complete fix, it requires 10 total part?. I thought there were 8 control arms total.
The first two items he listed are the actual end links.
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Originally Posted by CRowe14
The first two items he listed are the actual end links.
Correct. I figured I'd just change out everything on the front end including the ball joints and shocks for a total 14 items - 8 control arms, 2 end links, 2 struts and 2 ball joints.
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Just ordered my MAS lower arms today. I did the uppers last fall. The weather is nice again here so time to complete. Sometime after that i will get my P7's.
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Originally Posted by johnnyg66
Just ordered my MAS lower arms today. I did the uppers last fall. The weather is nice again here so time to complete. Sometime after that i will get my P7's.
Yea the tops are way easier. Just warning you.
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Yep. I have done my homework and have enough tools. Its all nuts and bolts to me. Guess i will see in a couple weeks.
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Does anyone see a kit for the AWD lower control arms? I've checked both sites and they are listed RWD only.


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