2018 Lexus LS Revealed!!
#31
Is it just me, or do others see the Infiniti Q70L in the side profile? It's a sad day when Hyundai offers better engine choices than Lexus. No V8?! All other models in this segment offer a V8 as an option. What is Lexus thinking? I will wait to see the car in person to make a final judgement, but a little disappointed with what I've seen so far.
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#34
As a 2013 LS owner, the 2018 model looks like a mashup of a Toyota Avalon with an Infiniti Q50 sedan.
I'm sure it'll grow on me, but as it stands today, the exterior styling is significantly more Infititi-ish than Lexus-ish.
The interior, however, looks amazing.
I'm sure it'll grow on me, but as it stands today, the exterior styling is significantly more Infititi-ish than Lexus-ish.
The interior, however, looks amazing.
#35
#36
Is it just me, or do others see the Infiniti Q70L in the side profile? It's a sad day when Hyundai offers better engine choices than Lexus. No V8?! All other models in this segment offer a V8 as an option. What is Lexus thinking? I will wait to see the car in person to make a final judgement, but a little disappointed with what I've seen so far.
#37
Instructor
According to the Car and Driver article I read this morning, the LS will be offered in both short- and long-wheelbase models. Here's an extract:
"Underneath the dramatic new sheetmetal is a version of the same Global Architecture-Luxury (GA-L) platform used in the LC, although the wheelbase is stretched by 10 inches for duty in the four-door. Lexus is offering a choice between standard- and long-wheelbase versions instead of going with a single size, better aligning the LS with its German rivals in the U.S. market (the Audi A8, the Mercedes-Benz S-class and the BMW 7-series are sold here only in long-wheelbase form). The new LS’s overall length is up by one inch over the outgoing long-wheelbase LS, which puts the new car in the same size neighborhood as the Benz and the BMW. And the car is lower and wider now, which is said to impart it with a lower center of gravity for improved handling and responses. "
Here's a link to the full article: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news
"Underneath the dramatic new sheetmetal is a version of the same Global Architecture-Luxury (GA-L) platform used in the LC, although the wheelbase is stretched by 10 inches for duty in the four-door. Lexus is offering a choice between standard- and long-wheelbase versions instead of going with a single size, better aligning the LS with its German rivals in the U.S. market (the Audi A8, the Mercedes-Benz S-class and the BMW 7-series are sold here only in long-wheelbase form). The new LS’s overall length is up by one inch over the outgoing long-wheelbase LS, which puts the new car in the same size neighborhood as the Benz and the BMW. And the car is lower and wider now, which is said to impart it with a lower center of gravity for improved handling and responses. "
Here's a link to the full article: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news
#38
Former Sponsor
I'm in the "like the side profile" group. But, I don't care one whit for the 6th glass pieces. They have NO function, they have no aesthetic improvement or appeal (to me). So why create an extra expense and design complexity for such a thing?
I'm also disappointed in the engine. For me, I don't need an engine for drag racing or road racing in a car like this. In a car like this, TORQUE, SMOOTHNESS and even SOUND mean luxury to me. But my suspicion is, that a V8 will be offered, hence the LS 500 name. Again, I would be disappointed if the V8 is outperformed by the V6 (except for mpg).
But my question to you guys is ... WHERE IS THE TRANSMISSION SHIFTER? Is it going to use the joystick thingie to select a transmission choice? It doesn't "appear" to have a hard shifter like the current model.
I'm also disappointed in the engine. For me, I don't need an engine for drag racing or road racing in a car like this. In a car like this, TORQUE, SMOOTHNESS and even SOUND mean luxury to me. But my suspicion is, that a V8 will be offered, hence the LS 500 name. Again, I would be disappointed if the V8 is outperformed by the V6 (except for mpg).
But my question to you guys is ... WHERE IS THE TRANSMISSION SHIFTER? Is it going to use the joystick thingie to select a transmission choice? It doesn't "appear" to have a hard shifter like the current model.
#39
Lexus Test Driver
wow... this makes it real hard for me.
i have joined the Tesla forums and had sold my 460L Exec Seat Pkg. even on the tesla forums they are talking about this new refreshed LS how the interior is so insane that it's going to give BMW and MB a run for their money.
just when i want to switch to full electric this comes up and reminds me of all of the options the Model S doesn't have! man, i'm torn...maybe the LS will be available as Full Electric????
i have joined the Tesla forums and had sold my 460L Exec Seat Pkg. even on the tesla forums they are talking about this new refreshed LS how the interior is so insane that it's going to give BMW and MB a run for their money.
just when i want to switch to full electric this comes up and reminds me of all of the options the Model S doesn't have! man, i'm torn...maybe the LS will be available as Full Electric????
#40
Lexus Fanatic
I see the Q70L in the side profile. I don't think thats a bad thing. Every time I look at the new LS I like it more.
My only issue is the V8.
As for C&D and the SWB, I think they are incorrect. Bear in mind this is a LWB car and this is the LS500 not the LS500L.
My only issue is the V8.
As for C&D and the SWB, I think they are incorrect. Bear in mind this is a LWB car and this is the LS500 not the LS500L.
#41
Racer
Will agree with Steve here. I was disappointed by the big reveal and didn't find an angle I liked, but the side profile is actually sleek and elegant. I see some Aston Martin in the side profile. Just don't stare at the rear quarter window section.
#42
Pit Crew
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I also wish it was more radical like the concept as a hatch, but it is a flagship vehicle with an older demographic so understand the bias toward conservatism in the final product. The 7-series and S-Class look dated in comparison. Win.
4.5 seconds is as fast as any of the F cars in the line-up. Seriously quick with not crazy power from the blown V6 which reveals that the weight should be way down compared to the German boats. Win.
This new LS absolutely is head and shoulders above any LS offered in the past. I fully expect it to be priced at a higher bracket just like what Porsche did with their 991 911s. I can't wait to see the F Sport variant because that's the only version that matters to me.
Well done, Lexus.
4.5 seconds is as fast as any of the F cars in the line-up. Seriously quick with not crazy power from the blown V6 which reveals that the weight should be way down compared to the German boats. Win.
This new LS absolutely is head and shoulders above any LS offered in the past. I fully expect it to be priced at a higher bracket just like what Porsche did with their 991 911s. I can't wait to see the F Sport variant because that's the only version that matters to me.
Well done, Lexus.
#43
Pole Position
It reminds me a little too much of the new Nissan Maxima. Perhaps seeing one in person would change my mind, hope so.
#44
I am partially disappointed for two main reasons; the car's appearance, and the lack of driving aids.
With respect to the car's appearance, the car just looks bulky and too Infiniti-like. Chubby rear end and somewhat of a mess at the front. Maybe it'll look different in person, but this is not a design that I look at and say "WOW." Cars like the latest S-class got me to say WOW, cars like the Quattroporte, cars like the LF-FC fot me to say WOW. Each has a beautifully flowing design that is its own. S-class oozes elegance and power. Quattroporte reminds me of a tailored Italian suit. And the LF-FC looked like that missing link in the Japanese lineup that married the crisp design from Lexus with style and grace of an Italian supercar. This, on the other hand, just has me saying "why does it look like an old Infiniti so much."
As far as driving aids, I am disappointed at not seeing some form of autonomous driving capability (a la Tesla). Don't get me wrong, I like driving as much as any other car enthusiast. But driving to work each day 70 miles one way on the expressway does get old, and trust me when I say that I would love to have some form of an autopilot in my car. 9 years ago the LS had dynamic cruise and lane assist. It's time for a major upgrade.
With respect to the car's appearance, the car just looks bulky and too Infiniti-like. Chubby rear end and somewhat of a mess at the front. Maybe it'll look different in person, but this is not a design that I look at and say "WOW." Cars like the latest S-class got me to say WOW, cars like the Quattroporte, cars like the LF-FC fot me to say WOW. Each has a beautifully flowing design that is its own. S-class oozes elegance and power. Quattroporte reminds me of a tailored Italian suit. And the LF-FC looked like that missing link in the Japanese lineup that married the crisp design from Lexus with style and grace of an Italian supercar. This, on the other hand, just has me saying "why does it look like an old Infiniti so much."
As far as driving aids, I am disappointed at not seeing some form of autonomous driving capability (a la Tesla). Don't get me wrong, I like driving as much as any other car enthusiast. But driving to work each day 70 miles one way on the expressway does get old, and trust me when I say that I would love to have some form of an autopilot in my car. 9 years ago the LS had dynamic cruise and lane assist. It's time for a major upgrade.