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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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200k total is enough miles that even with fixed parts you can expect one or more bushings to fail. Over that type of mileage they are wear items. I bought my Acura Legend at 185k and wasn't surprised when I had to replace the rear upper arms in that car
Exactly......Have not had a car yet that hasn't needed some level of suspension component replacement, whether my 7 series BMW, X5, Acura, Mustang, etc. If I have to replace the bushings (or complete assemblies) on my LS anytime soon, I won't lose a minute's sleep over it.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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My 2006 ml350 was the first year total new model. Lots of problems. Tranny shifting, front diff bearings, and the mother of them all, google mercedes balance gear failure. Like the LS spring recall but way way more cars and suvs and no recall. Ended in a class action suit. Mercedes unbelievably told everyone to get screwed.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennyr44
My 2006 ml350 was the first year total new model. Lots of problems. Tranny shifting, front diff bearings, and the mother of them all, google mercedes balance gear failure. Like the LS spring recall but way way more cars and suvs and no recall. Ended in a class action suit. Mercedes unbelievably told everyone to get screwed.
This, my BMW 7 Series nightmares, X5 woes and VW's recent fiasco, is why I will NEVER own a German vehicle ever again. I feel genuinely blessed in my LS after all that.

When German manufacturers basically thumb their noses at me because "I'm priveledged" to drive one of their cars....screw them.

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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 03:53 AM
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If indeed control arms were redesigned/fixed in 2011, does anyone know the part number for the same for pre and post 2011?. If it doesn't have different part number for 2011 or 2012 most likely they were untouched since 20007.

Without such proof we are purely speculating.
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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Yes, there are new part numbers. For instance, the upper left no. 1 arm was 48630-59085, now 48630-59125.
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 03:20 PM
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Anyone know what the flaw was in the old control arms and/or what was changed in the newer control arms?
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shambler
Anyone know what the flaw was in the old control arms and/or what was changed in the newer control arms?
Better bushings.
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 08:53 PM
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can the 2011 arms be retrofitted in earlier models?
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shambler
Anyone know what the flaw was in the old control arms and/or what was changed in the newer control arms?
Originally Posted by roadfrog
Better bushings.
Yep. The old bushings are prone to very premature cracking for a substantial number of owners.

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can the 2011 arms be retrofitted in earlier models?
Absolutely. All 8 arms in my 2008 are the post-2011 Lexus OEM parts.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dal20402
Yes, there are new part numbers. For instance, the upper left no. 1 arm was 48630-59085, now 48630-59125.
Good to know part numbers indeed were changed. Thanks for sharing .
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dal20402
Absolutely. All 8 arms in my 2008 are the post-2011 Lexus OEM parts.
Good to know, thanks for sharing!
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 12:09 PM
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I have an 07 L. It has 80K miles now and no control arm issues yet. Eventually they will go. Rubber bushings eventually wear out...the issue was they were wearing out way too soon. Even the redesigned ones will eventually fail, imo. I think it really comes down to how much abuse they took during prior ownership.
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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Abuse definitely helps speed failure, but some cars suffer it even without abuse. Most of my bushings were near-disintegrating at 44k miles. My car's previous two owners were an old man in Newport Beach, CA and a mom in exurban Sacramento, and the car was in absolutely like-new condition in every other respect when I took delivery. My car never had aftermarket wheels or suspension mods, never lived in the city, and never had an aggressive driver for an owner, and severe premature failure still occurred.
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 12:15 PM
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Surely the driver matters but you never know...the roads in which it traveled could have also helped caused the speed of failure...that's also what I meant by abuse. But as you said it very well could have been a poor batch of bushings as well.
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