8x BMW owner migrating to Lexus LS F Sport
12-26-13, 04:08 PM
#17
It was the same brand of Scotch. 2007 525i .
What are the statistical chances that we are the only ones that experienced problems.
Every car has it's recalls and Toyota has it's share but I never experienced actual known engineering blunders that so many critical parts had to be redesign. There were also safety issues with the wiring a year before the car was sold.
Even with a warranty the car will leave you stranded without warning. This is certainly not the car for elderly people, pregnant wives or somewhere you need to be that's urgent. It's quiet embarrassing having the employees at Burger King console you as you wait for the tow truck in the middle of a cold winter morning.
What are the statistical chances that we are the only ones that experienced problems.
Every car has it's recalls and Toyota has it's share but I never experienced actual known engineering blunders that so many critical parts had to be redesign. There were also safety issues with the wiring a year before the car was sold.
Even with a warranty the car will leave you stranded without warning. This is certainly not the car for elderly people, pregnant wives or somewhere you need to be that's urgent. It's quiet embarrassing having the employees at Burger King console you as you wait for the tow truck in the middle of a cold winter morning.
12-27-13, 07:48 AM
#18
about the constant repair bills.
12-27-13, 09:20 AM
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I googled around and searched the meaning of manufacturer names such as FIAT, an Italian who took over Chrysler. I thought it stands for "For Italians Adequate Transportation" but there is not such a result at Google. BMW does not stand for Bring Me to the Workshop. So, my search failed. Perhaps I have to search at Japanese Yahoo, haven't I ?
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12-27-13, 11:02 AM
#20
I thought BMW stood for Break My Wallet.... I have some experience coming from a 2002 E39 540i which started giving me lots of problems after about 7 years and only 55k mi. Had an 1998 E36 M3 sedan before that which was much more reliable than the 540i
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12-27-13, 01:11 PM
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I happen to be a car history buff and I just started reading the Relentless pursuit.
In the book they talk about the expectations of the LS engines and and the challenges that went into designing it. The LS engine was motivated after the design goals of the Japanese Zero engine which at the time exceeded other piston engines for its time.
If you look at so called European heritage or pedigree you will find that it's not as prestigious as one would think.
In the book they talk about the expectations of the LS engines and and the challenges that went into designing it. The LS engine was motivated after the design goals of the Japanese Zero engine which at the time exceeded other piston engines for its time.
If you look at so called European heritage or pedigree you will find that it's not as prestigious as one would think.
12-30-13, 12:22 PM
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I drive a 13 LS460, non F Sport. I researched damn near everything about this car and decided that the AWD base model is the best of the LS line up. I have no problems at all with the analog clock and I can set it manually without the dealer, my text messages via BT can be read even when the car is moving , you just can't reply even though there are options to choose from but for some reason the car will not allow you to reply. I test drove the F Sport model and to the OP... I didn't hear a sound from the engine until I laid on the gas a little, and still barely heard anything. Jumped into an Audi A8L... Was not impressed at all with the interior although I did like the interior lighting design. The drive is nice but again, I was not impressed. I guess I chose reliability over everything else. There is the dreaded brake actuator issue with the LS, but a quick fix VIA the actuator from the 600. Other than that I have had absolutely no problems with this car. This post is solely based on my opinions ans observations.
08-15-17, 12:22 PM
#24
I recently got a 2014 F Sport to replace my 2005 530i (e60). Different type of cars. The old 5 series still handles really well but it was a money pit. I feel the handling that comes with sport+ is enough for me. The extra acceleration is nice too. I won't get started on the tech. My old car had no back up camera, no bt audio, and no aux cable. It is a dream streaming music to my ML stereo.
08-16-17, 07:20 PM
#26
Heh, that $88k 2013 A8 4.0T is now worth about $30k:
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08-18-17, 12:42 AM
#27
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While I have no doubt the Brembo's on Lvbadboyz are problematic, I would reckon part of it is the nature of the beast. On a car like the LS460, I am not sure Brembo's make a great deal of sense.
Don't get me wrong, powerful brakes are exceedingly important when hauling down a 4000 pound plus car. It is just that aggressive pads with the attendant dust and comparative lower lifespan just does not really fit with pretty much a full on luxury car.
If the OEM were substandard, I would have purchased Brembo's the day I purchased the car.
Don't get me wrong, powerful brakes are exceedingly important when hauling down a 4000 pound plus car. It is just that aggressive pads with the attendant dust and comparative lower lifespan just does not really fit with pretty much a full on luxury car.
If the OEM were substandard, I would have purchased Brembo's the day I purchased the car.
08-18-17, 11:48 AM
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While I have no doubt the Brembo's on Lvbadboyz are problematic, I would reckon part of it is the nature of the beast. On a car like the LS460, I am not sure Brembo's make a great deal of sense.
Don't get me wrong, powerful brakes are exceedingly important when hauling down a 4000 pound plus car. It is just that aggressive pads with the attendant dust and comparative lower lifespan just does not really fit with pretty much a full on luxury car.
If the OEM were substandard, I would have purchased Brembo's the day I purchased the car.
Don't get me wrong, powerful brakes are exceedingly important when hauling down a 4000 pound plus car. It is just that aggressive pads with the attendant dust and comparative lower lifespan just does not really fit with pretty much a full on luxury car.
If the OEM were substandard, I would have purchased Brembo's the day I purchased the car.
08-18-17, 08:57 PM
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Braking in the LS is fine, According to Autotweek:
"....average braking distance for an elite luxury sedan."
119 feet 60-0 for the reg LS and only 4 feet shorter for the Brembo equipped F Sport. That puts the LS right in the mix for any of the large Luxury sedans.
"....average braking distance for an elite luxury sedan."
119 feet 60-0 for the reg LS and only 4 feet shorter for the Brembo equipped F Sport. That puts the LS right in the mix for any of the large Luxury sedans.
08-19-17, 08:53 PM
#30
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My first impression of the OEM brakes on our LS460s was just that, the brakes were subpar for a vehicle of this weight. This is subjective I'm sure, but the stopping power of the factory brakes relative to the weight of the car made it seem like the car was always sloshing forward as I approached stop signs/red lights. I changed out my factory front brakes for the Brembo GT BBK the first year I owned this car because it became unbearable to me. No complaints ever since.
On Monday, I am going to look into Brembos. I shudder to think how expensive they are, but when a matter of inches can make the difference between an accident or not. It also goes without staying that the OEM's are made to a price with performance taking a back seat.