2008 LS460 tire reccomendations ??
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2008 LS460 tire reccomendations ??
i have the Bridgestones tires that came with the purchase & need to replace .
I live in Florida and was looking for a much more quite tire with a longer life cycle .
These bridgestone tires are " shot " @ 25K miles.
Was looking at the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus.
I'd welcome any feed back .
Thank you ,
mickh
I live in Florida and was looking for a much more quite tire with a longer life cycle .
These bridgestone tires are " shot " @ 25K miles.
Was looking at the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus.
I'd welcome any feed back .
Thank you ,
mickh
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I'm coming up on needing to replace my stock tires also. Managed about 35000 miles on them, but they were not on the car during it's first 3 winters so I'm sure that helped. I had the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires on my E320 CDI that I owned before the LS460. I liked them a lot. They looked great, and had pretty good traction considering they were all seasons. Better even than the Falken summer tires that I had before. And most important to me, they wore better and were significantly quieter.
I intend to go with the Pilot Sport A/S's again. I think it's a good tire.
I intend to go with the Pilot Sport A/S's again. I think it's a good tire.
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I live in FL and have 08 460L. Just went through this and after much research, here and on line-including tirerack, I went with Michelin Primacy MXM4. Only 3K into tires and thus far very satisfied. Quieter than BStone EL42s, which are complete garbage.
The BStone Serenitys are assymetric which may lend to pulling to right.
My wife needs new tires and unfort Primacy MXM4 don't come in size she needs.
Good Luck.
The BStone Serenitys are assymetric which may lend to pulling to right.
My wife needs new tires and unfort Primacy MXM4 don't come in size she needs.
Good Luck.
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I still have the Bridgestone Turanza EL42 OEM tires on my 07 LS460 with 23,000 miles and they look like they will last quite a while longer. I keep them inflated to 33PSI (cold), rotate them occasionally and have no issues. I am not an aggressive driver. Knowing that some day I will have to replace them, I have been watching the discussions here so that I will have some ideas when that fateful time comes but indications here are not clear-cut. There have been several reports of “steering bias” after tire replacement and although discussions here have attempted to link that to certain tires the issue remains very murky for me.
Most, if not all, of the occasional reports of steering bias on this site have been related to replacement tires that have asymmetrical treads and directional treads. I don’t recall seeing any reports of symmetrical tread tires having a problem. There can be some compelling considerations for choosing tires with tread designs other than symmetrical but that is beyond the information that I want to share here.
The three main tread types, symmetrical, asymmetrical and directional, have some installation requirements that must be considered.
Symmetrical Tread – Tires with this type of tread pattern can be mounted with either side out and their position rotated in any manner – front to back, left to right, diagonal, and circular (if the spare has the same tread type). The Bridgestone Turanza EL42 is an example of this type of tread.
Asymmetrical Tread – These tires have to be mounted with the correct side out and usually have “This Side Out” on one of the sidewalls. Like the symmetrical tires there is no special consideration for position rotation. The Continental DRS is an example of this type of tread.
Directional Tread – These tires must be mounted with consideration for their position on the car because they are designed to turn in only one direction. There is a symbol on both sidewalls of these tires to indicate the correct direction of rotation. Positional rotation, without remounting, of these tires is limited to swapping the front and rear tires on the same side. The Michelin Pilot Sport is an example of this type of tread.
It is possible that some of the reports of steering bias are related to incorrectly installed tires because the rolling resistance differences. Here are some views depicting correct and incorrect installations of asymmetrical tread and directional tread tires.
I am not certain that I have these pictures correct. If anyone suspects that they are wrong please let me know and I will try to get them right.
Most, if not all, of the occasional reports of steering bias on this site have been related to replacement tires that have asymmetrical treads and directional treads. I don’t recall seeing any reports of symmetrical tread tires having a problem. There can be some compelling considerations for choosing tires with tread designs other than symmetrical but that is beyond the information that I want to share here.
The three main tread types, symmetrical, asymmetrical and directional, have some installation requirements that must be considered.
Symmetrical Tread – Tires with this type of tread pattern can be mounted with either side out and their position rotated in any manner – front to back, left to right, diagonal, and circular (if the spare has the same tread type). The Bridgestone Turanza EL42 is an example of this type of tread.
Asymmetrical Tread – These tires have to be mounted with the correct side out and usually have “This Side Out” on one of the sidewalls. Like the symmetrical tires there is no special consideration for position rotation. The Continental DRS is an example of this type of tread.
Directional Tread – These tires must be mounted with consideration for their position on the car because they are designed to turn in only one direction. There is a symbol on both sidewalls of these tires to indicate the correct direction of rotation. Positional rotation, without remounting, of these tires is limited to swapping the front and rear tires on the same side. The Michelin Pilot Sport is an example of this type of tread.
It is possible that some of the reports of steering bias are related to incorrectly installed tires because the rolling resistance differences. Here are some views depicting correct and incorrect installations of asymmetrical tread and directional tread tires.
I am not certain that I have these pictures correct. If anyone suspects that they are wrong please let me know and I will try to get them right.
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I live in FL and have 08 460L. Just went through this and after much research, here and on line-including tirerack, I went with Michelin Primacy MXM4. Only 3K into tires and thus far very satisfied. Quieter than BStone EL42s, which are complete garbage.
The BStone Serenitys are assymetric which may lend to pulling to right.
My wife needs new tires and unfort Primacy MXM4 don't come in size she needs.
Good Luck.
The BStone Serenitys are assymetric which may lend to pulling to right.
My wife needs new tires and unfort Primacy MXM4 don't come in size she needs.
Good Luck.
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For the money/performance , I like the Pirelli Nero Zero A/S M+S , although you don't really need all the M+S in Fla .. You can't beat the Pilot Sport A/S either ..I've run those on my 2 previous cars .. excellent tires ..but , they are directional , so check the installation ..
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Jeff, to be clear could you rename the captions in your photos:
driver side front, driver side rear, passenger side front, passenger side rear.
Then there won't be any confusion about left or right or viewed front the front or rear.
Thanx.
driver side front, driver side rear, passenger side front, passenger side rear.
Then there won't be any confusion about left or right or viewed front the front or rear.
Thanx.
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Props to JMCRANEY for that excellent post. I see improperly installed tires all the time on other cars in the parking lot just walking into the store. Actually saw a Conquest TSI that had the wider rear wheels on the front! FAIL...
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Joel, I have made the changes that you suggested. Thanks for the help.
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A couple weeks ago I replaced the stock Bridgestones with Pirelli P Zero Nero. They are top rated by Tire Rack and Consumer Reports. So far I am very pleased with them. There is no drifting, but I didn't experience that with the previous tires either. They might be a tad noisier than the Turanzas, but I can only notice it if the radio is off, which is rarely the case anyway.
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