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Originally Posted by TJW98LS
Well 60HP is a drastic change itself, and I'm sure we were all wanting 350+ but imagine how much faster it's going to be with the 60 horses. The first generation was what? 265? And they got to 60 in about 8 seconds. All they did was add 30 horses in 1998 and it shot from 8 seconds to almost 6. So I'm sure it's going to be quite a change in performance.
so with the extra hp at around 350hp, maybe the car will get to about mid to low 5 0-60, but that's about it.
just look at the s65, enormous power of over 600 and over 700 tq, but the 0-60 is "only" about 4 sec
Originally Posted by rominl
no, you are not getting the whole picture. hp is just one of the very few variable in the speed equation. in fact, hp is more about how fast you can go, but tq is more about how fast you can get to that speed. also gear ratio, tranny design, power train loss, ecu fuel timing, et.c.. all those can affect the overall "speed" of the car.
so with the extra hp at around 350hp, maybe the car will get to about mid to low 5 0-60, but that's about it.
just look at the s65, enormous power of over 600 and over 700 tq, but the 0-60 is "only" about 4 sec
so with the extra hp at around 350hp, maybe the car will get to about mid to low 5 0-60, but that's about it.
just look at the s65, enormous power of over 600 and over 700 tq, but the 0-60 is "only" about 4 sec
Originally Posted by TJW98LS
Well I know that about torque but Horsepower has it's effect too and a second in 0-60 time is still a big change, don't you think. Knowing Lexus they will find a way to add some pep. I know it.
Originally Posted by Christian
Hello,
Why doesn't america just do what the rest of the World is doing with measurements!?
Chris
PS: Sorry I couldn't resist
Why doesn't america just do what the rest of the World is doing with measurements!?
Chris
PS: Sorry I couldn't resist
Originally Posted by LEXUS FAN!
i have a question about that 8 speed auto
MB has a 7 speed automatic, and there's is actually 7 speeds...not 1 reverse and 1 neutral
MB has a 7 speed automatic, and there's is actually 7 speeds...not 1 reverse and 1 neutral
VVT-i was just kidding about that. btw, the benzes have 2 gears for reverse
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While what most of you guys have said about....
Originally Posted by TJW98LS
Well I know that about torque but Horsepower has it's effect too and a second in 0-60 time is still a big change, don't you think. Knowing Lexus they will find a way to add some pep. I know it.
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Originally Posted by rominl
hahhaa, funny on the tranny gear calculation. and neutral is counted as a gear? i thought that means just nothing
anyway, the hp pand tq numbers are right, the 460 with around 350hp and the future 500 will have about 400hp
and i love it getting bigger
anyway, the hp pand tq numbers are right, the 460 with around 350hp and the future 500 will have about 400hp
and i love it getting bigger
Originally Posted by knolex2001
The 5.0 won't be a reality. At least, not anytime in the next 4-5 years. The Lexus 4.6 will get 350hp vs Mercedes 305hp 5.0 liter. There really isn't a need.
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I don't mean to come across as cross but I find it funny everyone including myself is amped about HP/Torque numbers and:
THE LS430 WITH MAYBE THE LEAST HP IN CLASS IS THE BEST SELLING IN CLASS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST ACCELERATING IN CLASS!!
Think about it With only 290hp the LS 430 with the new 6 speed is a sub 6 second car. Lexus has ALWAYS offered the total package and maybe no other car that is more apparent than the LS. LExus is commited to the total improvement of the car, not chasing "a number" like others do. You would never figure a car like the LS, large and a luxury sedan, would have painstaking efforts made in aerodynamics, every revision.
I don't think Lexus will every have the most HP stock and if they do, they won't hold the title for long (the Germans simply won't have it). Look at the GS 400, it had the most HP and was the fastest car in class. Benz and BMW simply unleased the AMG/M cars.
The same thing with the IS350, with 310hp. BMW is going to introduce a Twin Turbo 335 to beat this car.
IT NEVER ENDS!!
THE LS430 WITH MAYBE THE LEAST HP IN CLASS IS THE BEST SELLING IN CLASS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST ACCELERATING IN CLASS!!
Think about it
With only 290hp the LS 430 with the new 6 speed is a sub 6 second car. Lexus has ALWAYS offered the total package and maybe no other car that is more apparent than the LS. LExus is commited to the total improvement of the car, not chasing "a number" like others do. You would never figure a car like the LS, large and a luxury sedan, would have painstaking efforts made in aerodynamics, every revision. I don't think Lexus will every have the most HP stock and if they do, they won't hold the title for long (the Germans simply won't have it). Look at the GS 400, it had the most HP and was the fastest car in class. Benz and BMW simply unleased the AMG/M cars.
The same thing with the IS350, with 310hp. BMW is going to introduce a Twin Turbo 335 to beat this car.
IT NEVER ENDS!!
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Originally Posted by knolex2001
The 5.0 won't be a reality. At least, not anytime in the next 4-5 years. The Lexus 4.6 will get 350hp vs Mercedes 305hp 5.0 liter. There really isn't a need.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I don't mean to come across as cross but I find it funny everyone including myself is amped about HP/Torque numbers and:
THE LS430 WITH MAYBE THE LEAST HP IN CLASS IS THE BEST SELLING IN CLASS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST ACCELERATING IN CLASS!!
Think about it With only 290hp the LS 430 with the new 6 speed is a sub 6 second car. Lexus has ALWAYS offered the total package and maybe no other car that is more apparent than the LS. LExus is commited to the total improvement of the car, not chasing "a number" like others do. You would never figure a car like the LS, large and a luxury sedan, would have painstaking efforts made in aerodynamics, every revision.
I don't think Lexus will every have the most HP stock and if they do, they won't hold the title for long (the Germans simply won't have it). Look at the GS 400, it had the most HP and was the fastest car in class. Benz and BMW simply unleased the AMG/M cars.
The same thing with the IS350, with 310hp. BMW is going to introduce a Twin Turbo 335 to beat this car.
IT NEVER ENDS!!
THE LS430 WITH MAYBE THE LEAST HP IN CLASS IS THE BEST SELLING IN CLASS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST ACCELERATING IN CLASS!!
Think about it
With only 290hp the LS 430 with the new 6 speed is a sub 6 second car. Lexus has ALWAYS offered the total package and maybe no other car that is more apparent than the LS. LExus is commited to the total improvement of the car, not chasing "a number" like others do. You would never figure a car like the LS, large and a luxury sedan, would have painstaking efforts made in aerodynamics, every revision. I don't think Lexus will every have the most HP stock and if they do, they won't hold the title for long (the Germans simply won't have it). Look at the GS 400, it had the most HP and was the fastest car in class. Benz and BMW simply unleased the AMG/M cars.
The same thing with the IS350, with 310hp. BMW is going to introduce a Twin Turbo 335 to beat this car.
IT NEVER ENDS!!
Yes BMW may come out with a twin turbo 335 but imagine that cost. I'd say about $70,000 and I garuntee you they will not sell that thing. As for the IS350, a heck of alot more will sell, don't you agree?
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Originally Posted by knolex2001
The 5.0 won't be a reality. At least, not anytime in the next 4-5 years. The Lexus 4.6 will get 350hp vs Mercedes 305hp 5.0 liter. There really isn't a need.
and have fuel economy of a v6
and yes there is a need. it will compete against benz S600 v12 and bmw 760iLv12
expected cost = 75,000
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Lexus LS600h
What it is: Hybrid version of Lexus's upcoming LS460. As the ultimate green machine, it will reportedly deliver V-12 performance with the economy of a V-6.
Based on: 2007 LS460, due next spring.
Powertrain: A 5.0L version of the 350-hp, 4.6L V8 from the LS460 paired with a high-output electric motor. Horsepower should reach a healthy 500. Continuously variable transmission.
Competition: BMW 760i, Mercedes-Benz S600, Maserati Quattroporte, Jaguar Super V-8
Estimated arrival and cost: Late 2007, $75,000
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