Originally Posted by BMCha

Not quite apples-to-apples, but in response to the suspension-vs-tires question: I had a 2022 LS 500 as a loaner for a week and a half last summer that had air suspension. My usual 2014 460L is on coils. Regarding the tire component of the ride, the combination of shorter sidewalls and the OEM runflats (mostly the latter I think) made the 500 quite a bit louder and bumpier over rougher road surfaces. However, larger bumps and undulations where the suspension itself was doing the bulk of the work were noticeably smoother and the ride more composed compared to what I was used to. While I have no complains with my ride quality on coils, if I ever had to replace my car I'd probably seek out air even knowing about the higher replacement cost.

Also, I have a pretty small garage but have no problem fitting the L in it; I pull forward to 1-2 bars on the front parking sensors and that gives me 1 or 2 ft of clearance on each end (I don't know the garage length off the top of my head but could measure it if you're interested). It could be a case of familiarity, but I did park a 2022 RX 450h in it once and had a much harder time than I did with the 460; I'm sure the height was part of the issue as I'm used to sedans so it felt like I was going to hit the top of the door (I didn't, of course). The actual main problem for me was likely the extra width since I have a very narrow garage door at the end of a sort of alley so you need all the steering you can get and there's not much wiggle room.

Originally Posted by JonGardner123

Hi, I'm looking for a 460 AWD and am curious whether the L is a good thing to get or not. Turning radius looks the same (per the internet). Sadly, I have no garage, so that's not an issue. what about driving? do you notice a difference? I imagine that tight city parking becomes tighter. Overall, is it worth it? I'm my own driver and most times the back seat will be empty. I'm coming from a 2013 GS AWD, so am excited about the step up in comfort....

Originally Posted by JonGardner123

Hi, I'm looking for a 460 AWD and am curious whether the L is a good thing to get or not. Turning radius looks the same (per the internet). Sadly, I have no garage, so that's not an issue. what about driving? do you notice a difference? I imagine that tight city parking becomes tighter. Overall, is it worth it? I'm my own driver and most times the back seat will be empty. I'm coming from a 2013 GS AWD, so am excited about the step up in comfort....

Originally Posted by JonGardner123

I'm my own driver and most times the back seat will be empty.

Originally Posted by Gerf

Unless you're going to use it for Ubering the L wouldn't seem to be a practical choice then, the extra 5" is all in the rear. The seats in the standard model reminded me of the flat seats in my ls400 that seemed like you could slide off if your seatbelt wasn't fastened going around a corner.

Originally Posted by BB9

I'd say it depends on what you planning to use it for. If you going to zoom around in the city, get that RX. RX is much better for life in the city. If you looking at some highway miles, living in the suburbs and roads are good in your area, go for the LS. Another thing to consider is the air suspension. When this air suspension goes caboom (when, not if) it will cost you good chunk of cash. RX doesn't have air suspension and the LS has. Generally speaking RX is much cheaper to maintain than the LS460, I mean cheaper by a nautical mile. Maybe previous 4 owners of this LS discovered true cost of maintaining LS460 with all these bells and whistles and they got scared. Another thing to keep in mind, Carfax doesn't mean squat these days. I've owned few beaters with clean Carfax in the past. My last toyota was in several accidents, it was completely re-painted twice and also had clear Carfax. You have to check that car yourself or send somebody familiar with body reapairs to look at it. I mean, don't get me wrong here. Fully loaded LS460 is a great car, no doubts about it, it's just not cheap to maintain and you definitely need PRE purchase inspection if you decide to go for it.