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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 01:34 PM
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I've been off the board for awhile. My wife has my old LS 430 for her runaround car.

After a lot of searching a member on here pointed me to my unicorn, a 2014 LS 460L AWD Ultra, It was purchased a 2.5 years ago with 8K miles on it. I'm up to around 26K now. Awesome road car as most know.

I really don't want to get rid of it, but I have a Lucid Pure on order and debating whether to give up the 460. I could pass it on to my wife, but overkill for her use and expect the car will pay the price. ;-)

Anyway, other than buying the Lucid and driving both for awhile, then deciding what to do, has anyone moved to the Lucid Air Touring?

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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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Put it in marketplace here, lots of people seem to be looking for one of those although I can't say if they're serious or not.
How bout posting a few pictures for us to enjoy?
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerf
Put it in marketplace here, lots of people seem to be looking for one of those although I can't say if they're serious or not.
How bout posting a few pictures for us to enjoy?
Just a white car.... ;-)



2014 LS 460L AWD Ultra (three person rear seat)
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 01:54 PM
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Lucid makes an incredible car on paper. In practice the car is loaded with bugs, and some features that don't work properly or at all. Not trying to be a downer but be prepared to put up with growing pains. There is a reason Lucid sells about 60% of the cars they produce and they don't make many.
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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I was so excited when you said it was an ultra.....but then you said 3 seater in the rear lol! I'm looking for a AWD or LS600 ultra to replace my 07 with at some point so I have a more worthy garage mate for my Audis
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Finding the 'chauffeur' back seat takes finding a unicorn to a whole other level. I found one while looking for a couple of years. Nothing with low mileage.

This one was originally bought in San Antonio, by an older lady living in Victoria. She wanted AWD, so they got it from a Seattle dealer.. She passed away, having rarely used it. Low miles, no rust, 99% loaded...what's not to like.

It showed up as a CPO in Austin, on the same day I was talking to the San Antonio Dealer into releasing the GMs same spec car with 16K miles on it. Friend on here pointed me to Austin as I was contemplating the one in San Antonio. Called Austin, held car, drove up next day and bought it...even had 'color' and interior I wanted.

It probably wasn't until I made a trip to Dallas earlier this year that I really appreciated how solid and pleasant it was at 80+ for 4-
5 hours...other than around Austin at 30. ;-)

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I have owned half a dozen EVs and plan to trade my LS for an EV sedan in the future.

It will NOT be a Lucid though for a couple reasons.

The Lucid Air has obnoxious high pitched motor whine (you can hear it in many review videos). All EVs have that to some degree and it just drives me up the wall.
Secondly, noise insulation from road and wind isn't as good.

If you're paying $100k+ you better love the vehicle. I think BMW and Mercedes are far ahead of Lucid in comfort and quiet.
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Old Jul 21, 2023 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rmawyer
Just a white car.... ;-)



2014 LS 460L AWD Ultra (three person rear seat)
Nice, my car looks exactly the same (I need to update my sig), same wheels and tint. Yours has a lot less miles than mine and I don't have an L

Still, it's a beautiful car, the pearl white is amazing in person.

Originally Posted by LeX2K
Lucid makes an incredible car on paper. In practice the car is loaded with bugs, and some features that don't work properly or at all. Not trying to be a downer but be prepared to put up with growing pains. There is a reason Lucid sells about 60% of the cars they produce and they don't make many.
The Lucid Air is a really nice EV, I have been eyeing them for a while now. I've also read about all the bugs and issues with them. Still, a really nice-looking EV with like 500 miles range on it. Crazy...

Originally Posted by HushedRide
If you're paying $100k+ you better love the vehicle. I think BMW and Mercedes are far ahead of Lucid in comfort and quiet.
I do wonder, are the Benz and BMW EVs more reliable than their gas-based cars? Knowing how later gas based cars are, if they EVs are reliable, it might be a way to look for a better EV....

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I also have a Pure reservation but the car doesn’t excite me as much as it once did (1+ year ago)..
Feels like there’s too many substitutes available.

let us know when you test drive it and compare it to your LS
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
I also have a Pure reservation but the car doesn’t excite me as much as it once did (1+ year ago)..
Feels like there’s too many substitutes available.

let us know when you test drive it and compare it to your LS
I test drove one in Dallas earlier this year. Short and local roads. What we experienced was great. Would like to do a long one like I did with Tesla S, but with no studios in SA, not really possible. There is a car near me, likely someone’s GT, but hard to request a test drive. :-)
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Originally Posted by rmawyer
I've been off the board for awhile. My wife has my old LS 430 for her runaround car.

After a lot of searching a member on here pointed me to my unicorn, a 2014 LS 460L AWD Ultra, It was purchased a 2.5 years ago with 8K miles on it. I'm up to around 26K now. Awesome road car as most know.

I really don't want to get rid of it, but I have a Lucid Pure on order and debating whether to give up the 460. I could pass it on to my wife, but overkill for her use and expect the car will pay the price. ;-)

Anyway, other than buying the Lucid and driving both for awhile, then deciding what to do, has anyone moved to the Lucid Air Touring?

thoughts?

I drive a 2016 LS Base and my EV is a Rivian R1T. I love both vehicles and will probably keep them for awhile as I normally switch cars every 2 years. I don't have to say much about what a great ride the 460 is on this forum but I will elaborate about the R1T. Even though it is a heavy pickup truck it will snap your neck going 0-60 in 3 seconds, the ride is adjustable from cushy soft (not quite at the level of the 460) to sportscar firm for great sportscar like handling and as high as15" clearance for heavy duty off roading. I know it's not a sedan but it is the most versatile vehicle I have ever owned and I have owned a lot over the past 55 years. With a 310 mile range it will get you around town.
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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I'd hang onto the Lexus as I've never owned an EV. After 6-12 months I'd know if I like the EV enough to give up a prime condition LS that I may never find a replacement for. They are getting harder to find.
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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The big 3 items on these are control arms, brake actuators, and the coolant valley plate leak. From watching well known The Car Care Nut master Toyota/Lexus tech on YouTube, check the front lower control arms (he may have mentioned the lower rear, specifically). That arm is the one that takes the most stress, and if it fails, it can cause all the others to fail. You might be able to get by without doing all 8 if you keep an eye on it.

The brake actuators are pricey at over $2k to replace. You need Toyota Techstream to bleed the system after replacement. Lexus extended the warranty on these, but it's a year/mileage thing, of course. Keep that in mind.

Coolant valley plate leak--look behind the engine on top of the transmission bell housing to check for any coolant residue.

If you buy an air suspension car, that system is extremely expensive to repair/replace.

Other than that, check all electronics and other items you'd normally look at when buying a used car. I'm in the market for one myself and spent hours upon hours learning about these cars and watching videos on repairs and common problems.


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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JRA2000TL
The big 3 items on these are control arms, brake actuators, and the coolant valley plate leak. From watching well known The Car Care Nut master Toyota/Lexus tech on YouTube, check the front lower control arms (he may have mentioned the lower rear, specifically). That arm is the one that takes the most stress, and if it fails, it can cause all the others to fail. You might be able to get by without doing all 8 if you keep an eye on it.

The brake actuators are pricey at over $2k to replace. You need Toyota Techstream to bleed the system after replacement. Lexus extended the warranty on these, but it's a year/mileage thing, of course. Keep that in mind.

Coolant valley plate leak--look behind the engine on top of the transmission bell housing to check for any coolant residue.

If you buy an air suspension car, that system is extremely expensive to repair/replace.

Other than that, check all electronics and other items you'd normally look at when buying a used car. I'm in the market for one myself and spent hours upon hours learning about these cars and watching videos on repairs and common problems.
Thinking you posted on the wrong thread. Good points though.
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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I did. Somehow it jumped to the next topic. Mods, please delete. I'll post in the correct one.
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