Seeing that you are talking about cars from 50 years ago, I think its time to re-adjust what you define as "long wheelbase" lol.

 

Not only that but they really don't ride that well, I've had a few through my shop to be converted to EFI and they are just boats. Sure they absorb a lot but dips/undulations in the road translate to your head being moved around a lot and you end up feeling a lot of movements

 

I didn’t have the opportunity to park the car in a tight space, and the space where I returned it at the dealership was large. That’s good to know it’s not an issue to park the L.

Speaking of 70s cars, wasn’t the Buick Electra 225 “deuce and a quarter” one of the longest? I’m assuming it meant it was 225” long.

 

True, I’ll give you that lol.

 

You’re right It was, however the mid-late 1970’s Lincoln Continentals were actually 233” long, while the Caddy Fleetwoods were 233.7” long. So they all were absolutely massive cars! You could easily carry 8 people in those cars, I did that many years ago when I used to own an early 70’s Caddy Sedan Deville.

 

I’ll have to disagree with you on that one. I’ve owned many vintage Cads and Lincs over the years and not too many cars even today can match their ride quality especially if the suspension and steering components are in great shape.

Yes they’re floaty and boaty which some people don’t like and that’s perfectly fine, but considering that those cars used a simple coil spring SLA suspension setup and pretty straightforward designs they rode tremendously well for what they were at the time. Now I can’t speak for how a brand new S-Class or Audi A8 or even a 7-Series rides in comparison to the classics, but they definitely hold their own weight against modern equivalents.

I will say though that my 07 LS460L does remind me a lot like driving an old Cadillac, but better. It has just that right amount of float that I like.

 

I had a 2013 SWB U/L with air suspension and also a 2016 L with air. Once you go air, you won't want to go back. Yes, it does have potential maintenance expense but my neighbor bought my 2013 and it's now over 200k with ZERO issues. I'm 100% in agreement with Steve. These cars are peak Lexus and the only thing that got me out of one was the performance offered by my Audi A8L 4.0. Anyone who's owned a German car laughs at maintenance worries with a Lexus too. They should have never veered away from V8 power in the new ones.

 

The air suspension issues are a little overblown. Every car will not have an air suspension failure, SOME cars do. You are totally right about once you go to an air suspension its hard to go back.

 

I had an 07L with air and had 226k on the odometer when my daughter totaled it. All 4 air struts were original. I’ve got a 2013L with air, now, and hoping I get the same out of this one. The air ride is awesome - as long as I don’t need to replace all my air struts in the next 5-6 years I’ll keep saying it, too

 

In case this is of interest: https://www.carmax.com/car/24508397
L, air, ML, 70k miles, $34k
You can add a warranty through CM.

 

Seems like quite a few in Texas.

https://acceleride.sterlingmccalllex...del%3ALS%20460

 

It's surprising how many L models don't have air suspension. Looks like all three of those are on coils.

 

While I'm not a big fan of the "spindle" grille on the LS, I have long wondered why Lexus did not give the 4th Gen LS the same treatment as other models. To me, it looks like the front is unfinished/unrefined compared to other models during the same model years.

2017 IS:



2017 LS:

 

A lot of people buy these to be stealthy and see that as a benefit. That goes for most of the flagships sedans.

 

I think the LS in that picture looks WAY better than the IS. Different demographics, worked on me twice, and once they made the front of the LS look like this, I bought a Mercedes.