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Old Sep 10, 2021 | 07:32 AM
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Question Replace ML Sub with Pioneer

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Please help me guys, can I install Pioneer subwoofer in ML system ?
I have LS430. And my ML subwoofer has only 2 wires and now I want to replace it with a pioneer OEM subwoofer but it has 4 wires. anyone know how to wire it?

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Old Sep 10, 2021 | 09:06 PM
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If you have the ML system you should keep your stock sub and just refoam it if you need to.
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Old Sep 11, 2021 | 12:25 PM
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The stock ML sub has problem inside it and i have to replace it not refoam it. Can I use the pioneer sub as i have one?
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Old Sep 11, 2021 | 12:46 PM
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No, you cannot. The Pioneer sub is a dual voice coil with 2 ohms of resistance. The ML sub has 16 ohms of resistance. It either won't work at all or it'll fry your amplifier, or both.
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Thank you 991LE.
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Old Sep 12, 2021 | 08:51 AM
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I think the sub on LS is 8 inch. Here are a few subs available on line that may work instead of paying crazy price for new ML sub - some of them may require a little custom mod and mounting but its usually not too difficult to get a new sub mounted. The Goldwood has 91 db sensitivity so it would be a little louder in the mix than the Dayton which is 85 db. On the other hand the Dayton is a little better qaulity speaker. My guess is that either one would be fine as a reasonable replacement speaker for a 15+ year old car. The OEM ML sub is not worth the extra cost.


https://www.parts-express.com/speake...inaldiameter/8

https://www.parts-express.com/B-C-8P...6-Ohm-294-5917

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I have the Dayton in mine and it's a good match for the ML system once broken in.
At first you may have to turn the bass down one notch but after a few weeks of use I turned mine back up to the midpoint, so bass/mid/treble are all in the middle.
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