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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 10:13 PM
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Hey Lexus lovers,
I saw a 2005 LS430 with 106,000 miles and I fell in love with the vehicle. The seller is asking $10,800.
The vehicle is clean, not one scratch or dent and it sounds perfect.
I have 131,000 on my 1998 LS400, and I really don't want to give it up.
I've done so much work on it that I intend to keep it for another 10 years. But that LS430 is giving me a headache. I would love to hear from everyone who is willing to lend an ear and provide some guidance on this issue.
I love my 1998 LS400. I fitted the PIONEER AVIC 8100 unit in place of the factory radio, so I have so many features to play with including DVD player, GPS, Android Auto. Android Auto is really a blessing. With Android Auto I do not have to touch my phone to make and receive calls and receive and send texts. All I have to say is: "OK Google, call John mobile" or "send text to John," and it asks me for the message. I say the message, it repeats it, then asks whether I wish to send. The same for text messages coming in.....it reads my message clearly for me. I can also play music on my phone, ipad or tablet through my car speakers. I can be listening to music as I drive while my rear seat passengers watch a movie on the two monitors fitted at the back of my front seat headrest. The Pioneer unit is capable of playing DVD with several formats. I can play music from a USB flash drive and an SD card. I can also image the contents of my phone onto the monitor/screen of my Pioneer unit via HDMI input. The only feature I miss the use of on my factory radio is the cassette player. I have some really good back-in-times music on my cassettes that I would love to transfer on a flash drive, SD card or CD.
I also installed a back up camera connected to the Pioneer unit and finally I installed backup sensors with the beeps that allow me to determine how close I am to an object behind me.
I will be installing a front camera which I have already purchased but I might need a switch to turn it on and off. That might be a difficult task for me so I am looking for some assistance with that project. Any takers?
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 01:11 AM
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Why not have both?
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 01:25 AM
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The UCF30 will drive better than the UCF20, as it has a completely revised suspension geometry, the engine is a lot better and the 6 speed transmission is a nice unit. Fitting all the toys you have in the UCF20 might be a bit of a task though, as the stereo wiring is a bit more involved, but certainly not impossible to do.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 02:48 AM
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Yup! Keep the 400, AND get the 430. Have your cake, and eat it. That's my vote.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 05:12 AM
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I would keep the 1998. 1998 was a good year as I distinctly remember the GS400 and saying da** that is sweet. $10k is not nothing, I mean I am resolved to save more and get rid of that 0% debt (I got a 0% offer with no fee balance transfer and took it, but this lowers the FICO score, so I am resolved to pay everything back by end of 2018). So I would say since you can only drive one car at a time, pass on the 2005, you can always buy it a year from now when it sells for $7k. Now you've saved almost $4k. If you actually have a lot of money, then what I've said makes no sense, meaning if you know you already have more than you can possibly spend in a lifetime, then I would get the 2005. I mean I had dreams of getting another LS430, but when I saw that my BMW went 2700 miles in 2 years, I thought, how many cars can I possess.....and insure for that matter....
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 07:00 AM
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This is a "Don't just do something. Stand there." situation.

Stick with what you have. Almost buying it will be better than actually buying the 430.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 07:18 AM
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What would be your motivation to buy?

I sold my LS400 to buy a 2004 430 because I wanted more power, more quiet, more safety (side, top, and knee air bags).
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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My advice - Stick with what you have. Your life will be no different except that you'll be either $10,000 poorer or $10,000 deeper in debt.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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Campisi I agree with you. I don't need it. I did not intend nor will I ever purchase a used car on credit. I have a good car and I don't drive more than 7,000 per year.
Good advice! Thanks mate


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My advice - Stick with what you have. Your life will be no different except that you'll be either $10,000 poorer or $10,000 deeper in debt.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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Yoitskenn, you have confused me more than I am already confused. I could only drive one car at a time, but you are tempting me Bro.!


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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:43 PM
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That's some of the reasons I've considered. I also realized I might not get that Pioneer AVIV 8100 NEX unit fitted in that LS430.
Thanks very much for the education.

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The UCF30 will drive better than the UCF20, as it has a completely revised suspension geometry, the engine is a lot better and the 6 speed transmission is a nice unit. Fitting all the toys you have in the UCF20 might be a bit of a task though, as the stereo wiring is a bit more involved, but certainly not impossible to do.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:45 PM
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Imdking, we are not supposed to have our cake and eat it too.
However, the thought is lingering in my head.

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Yup! Keep the 400, AND get the 430. Have your cake, and eat it. That's my vote.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:53 PM
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Johnhav430, the 1998 Lexus LS400 lacks some safety features that exist in the LS430. The LS430 also rides softer than the LS400.
I just spent approximately $2,000 on parts and labor on my LS400. On Sunday, I will be spending another $300 or more to replace a pair of after market mounts with the genuine Toyota mounts, plus change some steering parts like the stabilizer bar.
After Sunday, I think I would decide what to do. Watch this space next week.


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I would keep the 1998. 1998 was a good year as I distinctly remember the GS400 and saying da** that is sweet. $10k is not nothing, I mean I am resolved to save more and get rid of that 0% debt (I got a 0% offer with no fee balance transfer and took it, but this lowers the FICO score, so I am resolved to pay everything back by end of 2018). So I would say since you can only drive one car at a time, pass on the 2005, you can always buy it a year from now when it sells for $7k. Now you've saved almost $4k. If you actually have a lot of money, then what I've said makes no sense, meaning if you know you already have more than you can possibly spend in a lifetime, then I would get the 2005. I mean I had dreams of getting another LS430, but when I saw that my BMW went 2700 miles in 2 years, I thought, how many cars can I possess.....and insure for that matter....
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:58 PM
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Bloomwcjkl, I agree with your decision


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This is a "Don't just do something. Stand there." situation.

Stick with what you have. Almost buying it will be better than actually buying the 430.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 04:09 PM
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giggity giggity shut up meg

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