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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 09:08 AM
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So I was told by the dealer while checking my ballasts that the brakes are in need of changing. Got home yesterday to change out the pads. first noticed that one of my extended lug nuts had been removed and a crappy on replaced it.

Then when I went to remove the pads I noticed that the shims were gone?

Started to think... were they ever there? did I remove them when doing the last job and not reinstall them???

So here I am with no shims calling the dealer and getting quotes of $88 for the front and $50 for the back.. go to look online and get no where... go to rockauto and get no where... anyone care to help??

I am pretty positive to assume that I should have brake shims.

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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 10:24 AM
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Yes, you should have shims front & rear.

Rear: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEXUS-LS430-01-thru-06-REAR-NEW-OEM-BRAKE-SHIMS-/390286167154?hash=item5adede4c72&vxp=mtrFront: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEXUS-OEM-0494550060-Front-Brake-Pad-Shim-Disc-Brake-Pad-Shim-/251692037662?fits=Model%3ALS430&hash=item3a9a03b61e&vxp=mtr
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The Lexus factory pads have shims ,but they could have aftermarket pads that incorporate a design where the shim is all part of the backing plate and the factory shims won't fit them.

I came across this when replacing some pads on a different Lexus where you couldn't use the shims.
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Originally Posted by BradTank
The Lexus factory pads have shims ,but they could have aftermarket pads that incorporate a design where the shim is all part of the backing plate and the factory shims won't fit them.

I came across this when replacing some pads on a different Lexus where you couldn't use the shims.
This was the answer. The thing that bothers me is who ever did the original brake job never kept the shims.. therefore i will always have to use an aftermarket pad with the shim built in. I appreciate the help guys I thought I was loosing my mind. Now I have another issue with the Abutment Clips but ill save that for another post as I think this one could be useful.
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Talking Factory brake Pad Shims

Most of the pads today and particularly the better quality pads already have the baking shims incorporated into the pad.

Get rid of the factory shims. The money they want for those shims is a bad joke. They should not be used with the quality pads. Quality carbon fiber/ceramic pads with slotted/drilled rotors are so cheap that using anything else is foolish. I don't even turn rotors anymore. To big a risk that they will not be done right.
Do "bed" your new pads and rotors.

Do use the red anti squeal compound between the rear of the pad and the pistons. A little dab of these stuff goes a long ways, don't overdue it. I've seen it oozing out of the pads. Not good.

Do use a torque wrench to re-secure your calipers. I don't replace the caliper screws, others might.

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