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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:00 AM
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I just bought my 04 LS and im researching ride height and wheel specs to achieve a nice stance that isnt ridiculously slammed and overly cambered, Im not looking to cut the fenders. The issue is everyone is either stock... or slammed lol, so its hard for me to gauge the medium.
Could anyone post up a few shots w/ wheel specs?
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Sup OneManDeep,
Im in the same situation myself and its quite difficult as people are going to contribute too much sadly. Your going to have to do your own research and start learning all about camber, offset, spacers, Hi/Low disk, tire stretching, Adjustable upper/lower arms, etc.
If you already are not familiar with the things I mentioned above, that would be your first step.
Most people that are going conservative without having to roll or pull your fenders usual go with somewhere about 8.5 to 9 in the front and 9-10 in the rear. Tire sizes come into play big time as you will have to stretch the tires to fit big sized wheels if you want to drop it to the point the tires are somewhat hidden in the fender . Fronts must have Hi Disk majority of the time to clear the caliper. Most peoples offset will usually run from 25-35 but a lot depends on the rim design.
Lastly, our cars use what they call A-Arm set up and the camber cant be adjusted too much without buying aftermarket control arms. There is not too many makers for the front except Nagisa from what I know but these are going to cost big bucks. As far as the rear, a lot of people are running megans adjustable arms.
Theres a few threads out there that you just have to search. Good luck. If you do end up gettings rims soon, let us know the specs and update with some pictures.

P. S I think when rims poke out, it is super lame. Just my opinion.

This link should help you somewhat get started. But like I mentioned, not too many contributions to that thread.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls4...nce-guide.html

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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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Much appreciated on the reply man.
So im Familiar with wheel fitment from my previous 240. Its the actual car in question that im not familiar with. After more research I'v found that the arms on these cars hit the chassis, but is that only experienced after extreme lowness? Im going to lurk around more and look for people with setup similar to what im looking for and just survey what they did. Ws hoping to save some time and effort!
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im on tanaba pro z with 20x9 n 20x10 -38 42 offset. it sit pretty low and does rub alittle in the front and rear with 245 and 275 35 series 'michelin'. i do have two heavy *** sub and dynomat half the car so its pretty heavy. theres no tire wear so far and i've put more then 15k miles on the tires.
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im on tanaba pro z with 20x9 n 20x10 -38 42 offset. it sit pretty low and does rub alittle in the front and rear with 245 and 275 35 series 'michelin'. i do have two heavy *** sub and dynomat half the car so its pretty heavy. theres no tire wear so far and i've put more then 15k miles on the tires.
Kenshi, would you be kind enough to post a pic of your car with your wheel setup. Picture from the top fender as well so i can see if its poking out or not. Also, you mentioned -38 offset front, you meant +35 and it was just a dash to separate the numbers? Thanks.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:20 AM
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MUST be +38 lol. -38 would poke like crazy.
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Hope this helps. I have bc coils and wheel specs are 20x 9 front and 20x10.5 rear. Both sit without poking which is what I like. Front wheel 225/35/20 rear is 245/30/20. This is what it came with but I would rather have 40 sidewalls for better absorption of impacts from the road.
Also not my wheel of choice but I got a steal on them! I am needing to add 5mm spacer in the back as the rim hits the strut at times. Front rubs on steep driveways. Otherwise not too bad. Good luck.
No rolls or pulls.


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I forgot 38 front and back offset
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Nice! Thanks for the visual. If your not digging the wheels ill take them lol. I think a 9.5 & 10.5 with a ~32-35 offset would be the perfect balance, Flush without poke. Do Your fronts rub the strut or the wheel well?
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManDeep
I just bought my 04 LS and im researching ride height and wheel specs to achieve a nice stance that isnt ridiculously slammed and overly cambered, Im not looking to cut the fenders. The issue is everyone is either stock... or slammed lol, so its hard for me to gauge the medium.
Could anyone post up a few shots w/ wheel specs?
How you'd like the tires to fit will make a big difference... are you looking for a stretched look or a wide meaty look that fills out the entire rim width?
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 03:30 AM
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I choose tire fitment based on the wheel. I prefer my lips to be as flush with the fender while maintaining minimal camber. Ill let the tire sizes be determined by what it takes to achieve that. Slight stretch is ok/prefered, meaty is ok on sporty cars but not on a car like this. Meaty tires on these cars just make you look like someones dad, who wont sacrifice comfort but wants some wheels lol.
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I've kind of given up on a lot of the searches here in the US because I've seen almost all the threads that gave any info. So now im searching google with the japanese kanji for the celsior and have some results haha
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Originally Posted by OneManDeep
I choose tire fitment based on the wheel. I prefer my lips to be as flush with the fender while maintaining minimal camber. Ill let the tire sizes be determined by what it takes to achieve that. Slight stretch is ok/prefered, meaty is ok on sporty cars but not on a car like this. Meaty tires on these cars just make you look like someones dad, who wont sacrifice comfort but wants some wheels lol.
Well on a 10" or 10.5" wide wheel, a 245/30 tire will be quite stretched, and the ride quality will be pretty lousy. A 275/30 will have a mild stretch, and a 285/30 will be what I would consider the correct width, or maybe what some would consider a bit "meaty". Now depending on which tire you go with, you'll have some big problems with rubbing the fender lip with the 285 vs the 275 or the 245. So it is imperative to know what tires you will be using when asking about what offsets you want, if you want to avoid any fender modification.
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Originally Posted by OneManDeep
Nice! Thanks for the visual. If your not digging the wheels ill take them lol. I think a 9.5 & 10.5 with a ~32-35 offset would be the perfect balance, Flush without poke. Do Your fronts rub the strut or the wheel well?
Sorry for the late response. The front doesn't bang the strut, its the rear that was cutting it super close with the rim. The 5 mm spacers seemed to do the trick. My damper setting is 25 front and 25 rear so its really stiff. The front will sometimes rub the fender when the wheel is turned and going into a dip. If I go slow its fine but going a decent speed with a dip will rub the fender.
Ride is quite bouncy but that's the sacrifice of running such rims. Cant afford the damper to be soft and the tire hitting the fender.
Hope that helps!
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