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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Interesting read on DIY R&R on bushing using common tools: http://www.aftermarketsuspensionpart...thout-a-press/
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Daspyda
Any idea what the ton capacity of the press needs to be to press out and re-install these bushings?

My shop has a 20 ton press - would that suffice?

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Yes. That is plenty. Just use PB blaster and fire as needed. (not at the same time)
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Daspyda
Any idea what the ton capacity of the press needs to be to press out and re-install these bushings?

My shop has a 20 ton press - would that suffice?

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For these, it's not so much about how many tons of pressure, but the if the press is big enough to accommodate it. If it's a freestanding floor press, it should be fine. If it's something for a tabletop it might be an issue. It's bigger than most bushings that are pressed in and out.

I had hoped I could use a control arm press to do the job but it simply wasn't big enough.
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 04:45 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 06:34 PM
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is that a figs bracket and bushings? looks like quality work. care to share?
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 07:44 PM
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is that a figs bracket and bushings? looks like quality work. care to share?
Its all FIG's. I sent a set of lower control arms to them to modify and extend out the ball joint socket. The front bushing is a custom piece by them and also the rear bushing and housing is theirs. All my suspension components on my car are FIG's parts. I have FIG's FUCA, custom extended outer tie rods, FLCA, custom #1 bushing, #2 bushing in housing, RUCA, rear toe arm, rear track arm, and rear camber arm. Most parts were built custom for my application.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 06:26 AM
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Thanks for all your guidance.

I obtained some OEM bushings off eBay a couple weeks ago, and had a local shop install them for $191 w/tax.

$138 for the bushings, $191 for the labor= $329 total.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Daspyda
Thanks for all your guidance.

I obtained some OEM bushings off eBay a couple weeks ago, and had a local shop install them for $191 w/tax.

$138 for the bushings, $191 for the labor= $329 total.
That's a very reasonable cost.
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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So wait, this bushing comes off independently of the control arm? I was thinking of replacing the whole lower control arm but won't if it separates by itself.
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 12:33 PM
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I'm thinking about this more and more since I mounted my snows, I see mine are cracked. I believe it's the small ones facing forward that are not replaceable i.e. Toyota doesn't make the separate part, which is why dealers only replace the entire arm (does this make sense?). But the bang for buck improvement comes with replacing the rear larger bushing....

is there a disadvantage with going with the stiffer Figs bushing? And theirs will last longer, right?
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LudeAEM
So wait, this bushing comes off independently of the control arm? I was thinking of replacing the whole lower control arm but won't if it separates by itself.
Yes, it's enclosed in a bracket at the rear of the LCA. 48655 is the bushing, and 48652 is the bracket.

http://www.lexussouthatlantaparts.co...modelYear=2004

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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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is there a disadvantage with going with the stiffer Figs bushing? And theirs will last longer, right?
You will have noticeably stiffer shock absorption with polyurethane or neoprene LCA bushings. Check existing threads.
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Old Dec 15, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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Just got back from getting mine replaced. I bought 2 Lexus OEM bushings on ebay for $125 and my local shop put them in for $150, a total of $275. My bushings were visibly cracked, but not a huge amount, but I was getting some clunking over rough spots of road and while going over some bumps. I need another longer drive to be sure, but it does seem like most if not all the clunking I was getting is gone.

I'd like to do the shocks, lower ball joints, sway bar bushings, tie rod ends eventually, but figured I'd do just the LCA bushings first to see how much of an impact they make on their own before going and spending big money on a lot of parts.
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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That bushing housing is a real pain to break free. That is one reason why we just offer the complete bracket replacement complete with our progressive support bushing. The road feel is not uncomfortable and the impact on inner tire wear and braking stability is pronounced.
These bushings are direct fit.
http://shopfigs.com/v3/G2ISHP-FRLCA-...KT?search=%232
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FIGS
That bushing housing is a real pain to break free. That is one reason why we just offer the complete bracket replacement complete with our progressive support bushing. The road feel is not uncomfortable and the impact on inner tire wear and braking stability is pronounced.
These bushings are direct fit.
http://shopfigs.com/v3/G2ISHP-FRLCA-...KT?search=%232
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Would you guys consider using the same bushing material that Lexus does as an alternative? Some people prefer OEM-like rides instead of the slightly stiffer experience your bushings provide.

Or, buying some OEM bushings and installing them into your brackets?

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