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Old 05-01-21, 01:46 PM
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Default 1998 1999 2000 ls400 headlamp daytime driving bulbs

OEM daytime driving lamps consist of T-3-1/4
5W wedge base bulbs.


HID Headlamp assembly.

T-3-1/4 (81610F) bulb plugs into stalk mounted socket (81615D)




High quality, but incandescent with yellowish tint.(2700k)

Am substituting Dr. LED 8 chip T-3-1/4 (T-5) lamps to achieve brighter white light (over 180 lumens) and decreased power consumption..


Profile of LED and incadescent bulbs is comparable..so LED bulbs will fit. 8 LEDs: 4 high brightness Cree LED chips on each side of circuit board.. non-polarized and circuitry maintains uniform brightness from 10-15VDC ( or 12VAC input), i.e., a constant intensity at different voltages.

The flipside

The LED Bulbs appear brighter..in fact am able to discern illumination in bright sunlight..

Will advise nighttime brightness (headlamps off)

https://www.doctorled.com/store/LED-Bulb/12V-LED-Bulb/Wedge/Single-Sided-T5-Wedge-LED-2041





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Originally Posted by YODAONE
OEM daytime driving lamps consist of T-3-1/4
5W wedge base bulbs.


HID Headlamp assembly.

T-3-1/4 (81610F) bulb plugs into stalk mounted socket (81615D)




High quality, but incandescent with yellowish tint.(2700k)

Am substituting Dr. LED 8 chip T-3-1/4 (T-5) lamps to achieve brighter white light (over 180 lumens) and decreased power consumption..


Profile of LED and incadescent bulbs is comparable..so LED bulbs will fit. 8 LEDs: 4 high brightness Cree LED chips on each side of circuit board.. non-polarized and circuitry maintains uniform brightness from 10-15VDC ( or 12VAC input), i.e., a constant intensity at different voltages.

The flipside

The LED Bulbs appear brighter..in fact am able to discern illumination in bright sunlight..

Will advise nighttime brightness (headlamps off)

https://www.doctorled.com/store/LED-...Wedge-LED-2041

Dr. LED advises their T-3-1/4 white LED bulbs are equivalent to 10W incandescent....so double light output.

Power consumption is about ~ 1W


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It is not advisable to switch to a brighter, whiter light for daytime running lamps. Reduced visibility and safety will be a concern because other drivers won't be able to distinguish the car moving towards them in the distance, that's why the DRLs are an incandescent more yellowish color for the reflective housing.

It would be different if you had a dedicated LED DRL assembly as it would be more directed and focused, but placing an LED bulb in a halogen assembly will not achieve a better result.
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Those 5W bulbs are not daytime running lights. They are the front parking lights which are also referred to as position lights and city lights in Europe.
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Those 5W bulbs are not daytime running lights. They are the front parking lights which are also referred to as position lights and city lights in Europe.
OK. The dealer was unsure of their title so selected one.

It appears they operate when the vehicle is running...

Now 1W LED bulbs that offer 10W incandescent equivalent light output.

Some energy savings. Every little bit helps.



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Originally Posted by Losiracer2
It is not advisable to switch to a brighter, whiter light for daytime running lamps. Reduced visibility and safety will be a concern because other drivers won't be able to distinguish the car moving towards them in the distance, that's why the DRLs are an incandescent more yellowish color for the reflective housing.

It would be different if you had a dedicated LED DRL assembly as it would be more directed and focused, but placing an LED bulb in a halogen assembly will not achieve a better result.
The bulbs replaced are minor T-3-1/4
5W incandescent bulbs...
Apparently mistitled as driving lights, but replaced both of these inoperative 5W bulbs several years ago with dealer parts.
The glass envelopes were blackened.
Now they are LED's.
The two other bulbs perform the heavy lifting.
Feel free to survey yours and replace as you see fit.
Most are probably blackened or burnt out after 20 years.
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Originally Posted by YODAONE
The bulbs replaced are minor T-3-1/4
5W incandescent bulbs...
Apparently mistitled as driving lights, but replaced both of these inoperative 5W bulbs several years ago with dealer parts.
The glass envelopes were blackened.
Now they are LED's.
The two other bulbs perform the heavy lifting.
Feel free to survey yours and replace as you see fit.
Most are probably blackened or burnt out after 20 years.
So if you did a test where you positioned the car say 300 yards away and ran both the incandescent bulb and LED bulb, would the LED have the same if not greater output? And it wouldn't blend in with the surrounding environment in bright sunlight?

If it produces a white light that is still visible, I'm all for upgrading the 20 yr old bulb I have in there now.
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Default Calculated power consumption reduction of LED's

2 incandescent bulbs X 5 watts = 10 watts.
2 LED bulbs X 1 watt = 2watts.

10 watts - 2 watts = 8 watts energy savings.

8 watts ÷ 12 volts = .666 Amps.

Now if I could find 10 other places to reduce power consumption.

Instrument cluster, radio and climate control bulbs come to mind.
The challenge is working the LED bulbs to achieve uniform light output or dimability (The Dr. LED bulbs featured here are not dimmable)
On information, certain radio and or climate control bulbs are 8V....
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Originally Posted by YODAONE
OK. The dealer was unsure of their title so selected one.

It appears they operate when the vehicle is running...

Now 1W LED bulbs that offer 10W incandescent equivalent light output.

Some energy savings. Every little bit helps.
So your posts like this and that will be vain soon.
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Originally Posted by Yamae
So your posts like this and that will be vain soon.
Your proficiency in English language is far superior to my Japaneses language skills, however do not understand "will be vain soon"

Can you rephrase?

Thank you.
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Default Led parking lamp illumination

Night image depicting headlamp parking bulb close up illumination off brick wall:



...and with low beam headlamps:




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Do all 98 on have em? Guess mine are blown? Personally I would go with yellow/orange as a choice.Better contrast vrs perceived reflection? Who knows. Cool topic anyhow.
Do they function like DRL,key on,lights on?

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Originally Posted by spuds
Do all 98 on have em? Guess mine are blown? Personally I would go with yellow/orange as a choice.Better contrast vrs perceived reflection? Who knows. Cool topic anyhow.
Do they function like DRL,key on,lights on?
1998-2000 headlamp assemblies feature this third, albeit minor bulb.
Still trying to wrap my head around the title of parking lamp...as it appears they operate when the car is moving...

Order a set from Dr. LED and report your findings. ..

The rear tail light assembly each have a T-3-1/4 bulb-replaced mine with red LED's

The front side marker lense bulbs were replaced with amber LED's

The 4 Door Pocket lamps were replaced with red LED's (red is easier on eyes at night)

The Trunk lamp was replaced with a white LED...huge difference

All Dr. LED - marine rated products.

Was going to replace my T-3-1/4 license plate bulbs with Dr. LED, but they are too bright,

The third brake light assembly will maintain T-5 incandescents, but will supplement with a third or, if necessary, a fourth as LEDs to reduce turn on time (safety), while avoiding notchy turn off time of using straight LED's..and avoid triggering bulb out indicator.

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LED made a HUGE difference on the 67 Jeepster but I really dont need em on Lexus,rarely night drive and they work well


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