Engine coolant temperature is rising while vehicle is idling
#1
Rookie
Thread Starter
Engine coolant temperature is rising while vehicle is idling
Hello everyone, this question is in regard to my 1996 Lexus LS400. Yesterday, I noticed the vehicle's engine coolant temperature gauge rising and immediately shut off the vehicle to let the vehicle cool down. After allowing ample time for the vehicle to cool down, I inspected my coolant reservoir and found that the coolant level was normal. I also inspected the engine bay and underneath the vehicle for evidence of a coolant leak and did not find anything.
While driving, the engine coolant temperature gauge reads at normal operating temperatures with or without the air conditioning running. If I stop and let the vehicle idle for a few minutes, the engine coolant temperature gauge will start rising with or without the air conditioning running.
Today, I noticed the same issue occurring while the vehicle was idling so I turned the heater on to alleviate the issue. This seemed to be effective in reducing the engine coolant temperature. I arrived home approximately 5 minutes after I had turned on the heater. When I arrived home, I noticed that my heater was not blowing warm air anymore.
What are some possible scenarios I should investigate to resolve this issue of my vehicle overheating? Thank you and have a great day!
While driving, the engine coolant temperature gauge reads at normal operating temperatures with or without the air conditioning running. If I stop and let the vehicle idle for a few minutes, the engine coolant temperature gauge will start rising with or without the air conditioning running.
Today, I noticed the same issue occurring while the vehicle was idling so I turned the heater on to alleviate the issue. This seemed to be effective in reducing the engine coolant temperature. I arrived home approximately 5 minutes after I had turned on the heater. When I arrived home, I noticed that my heater was not blowing warm air anymore.
What are some possible scenarios I should investigate to resolve this issue of my vehicle overheating? Thank you and have a great day!
Last edited by 96UCF20; 05-29-16 at 06:06 PM. Reason: Additional information annexed to my original post.
#2
Super Moderator
iTrader: (6)
Welcome to Club Lexus.
My suggestions would be the usual for cooling system maintenance, fresh coolant and thermostat. Checking the radiator fins to be clear of any obstructions like leaves, bugs road grime, etc. Checkg vacuum hoses to the heater control valve for any cracks or poor fitment. As supplemental, going through all the vacuum lines to verify fit and replace any that are hard-brittle.
My suggestions would be the usual for cooling system maintenance, fresh coolant and thermostat. Checking the radiator fins to be clear of any obstructions like leaves, bugs road grime, etc. Checkg vacuum hoses to the heater control valve for any cracks or poor fitment. As supplemental, going through all the vacuum lines to verify fit and replace any that are hard-brittle.
#3
Rookie
Thread Starter
Welcome to Club Lexus.
My suggestions would be the usual for cooling system maintenance, fresh coolant and thermostat. Checking the radiator fins to be clear of any obstructions like leaves, bugs road grime, etc. Checkg vacuum hoses to the heater control valve for any cracks or poor fitment. As supplemental, going through all the vacuum lines to verify fit and replace any that are hard-brittle.
My suggestions would be the usual for cooling system maintenance, fresh coolant and thermostat. Checking the radiator fins to be clear of any obstructions like leaves, bugs road grime, etc. Checkg vacuum hoses to the heater control valve for any cracks or poor fitment. As supplemental, going through all the vacuum lines to verify fit and replace any that are hard-brittle.
I was driving my car about an hour ago and the engine coolant temperature was fine and the heater was blowing warm air. I drove home with no issues and did not let the car idle this time when I got home. Regardless, I will inspect the vacuum lines while I am inspecting the radiator fins.
#4
Pole Position
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto/Vancouver Canada
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Radiator Cooling Fan
Went through the same issue, turned out to be the radiator cooling fan. The fan motor was replaced, no more overheating since then. Hopefully this is the culprit.
#6
Lexus Champion
Easy enough to diagnose....simply wedge a wad of folded paper towels beneath water control valve and see if evidence of coolant.(red or green)
This valve can be compromised by hasty jacking of the engine such as when replacing motor mounts, without first unfastening valve from the firewall.
1993 LS400 was running slightly hot, but intermittently so...and according to the temperature gauge replacing the leaking water control valve solved the problem.
Not sure if a coolant system pressure gauge would pick this up
Possibly the internal rubber seals were age hardened.
#7
Rookie
Thread Starter
Today, I inspected the radiator fins and found them to be clear of debris. The vacuum hoses leading to the heater control valve were supple and free of cracks. In regard to the engine cooling fan, I attempted to spin the fan by hand and was met with little resistance.
I compared the resistance of the engine cooling fan on my LS400 to the resistance of my other vehicle's fan and it was noticeably easier to spin the fan by hand on my LS400. I can also feel the fan wiggle slightly if I try to move it.
All these signs lead me to believe that the fan clutch needs to be replaced. That being said, I've also been reading about something referred to as the fan clutch bearing bracket as a potential factor to my overheating issue. How should I inspect the fan clutch bearing bracket to rule it out as a variable?
I compared the resistance of the engine cooling fan on my LS400 to the resistance of my other vehicle's fan and it was noticeably easier to spin the fan by hand on my LS400. I can also feel the fan wiggle slightly if I try to move it.
All these signs lead me to believe that the fan clutch needs to be replaced. That being said, I've also been reading about something referred to as the fan clutch bearing bracket as a potential factor to my overheating issue. How should I inspect the fan clutch bearing bracket to rule it out as a variable?
Last edited by 96UCF20; 05-30-16 at 08:26 PM. Reason: Additional information annexed to my original post.
Trending Topics
#8
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
i've experience this exact same thing down to every little detail and it boils down the air in the coolant system. this is evident with the heater not being hot anymore. if you hold the revs, the heater should become hot again as the air is being pushed out. bleed the coolant properly, and you should be fine!
bleeding involves holding the revs at 1.5k-2k so the water pump can work out all the bubbles. i personally have best experience doing this on an incline, front of the car higher than the rear to move as much air to the top of the cooling system to purge out of the radiator cap (which should be open during the bleeding process).
also remember to check for the color of the coolant, which should be red if factory coolant is used. toyota OEM red long life coolant is highly recommended!
bleeding involves holding the revs at 1.5k-2k so the water pump can work out all the bubbles. i personally have best experience doing this on an incline, front of the car higher than the rear to move as much air to the top of the cooling system to purge out of the radiator cap (which should be open during the bleeding process).
also remember to check for the color of the coolant, which should be red if factory coolant is used. toyota OEM red long life coolant is highly recommended!
#9
Super Moderator
iTrader: (6)
Enough times we'll have discussions on a failing-failed clutch assembly. If the system has been serviced recently, air in the system will give similar heating symptoms as Timmy mentions.
#11
Rookie
Thread Starter
i've experience this exact same thing down to every little detail and it boils down the air in the coolant system. this is evident with the heater not being hot anymore. if you hold the revs, the heater should become hot again as the air is being pushed out. bleed the coolant properly, and you should be fine!
bleeding involves holding the revs at 1.5k-2k so the water pump can work out all the bubbles. i personally have best experience doing this on an incline, front of the car higher than the rear to move as much air to the top of the cooling system to purge out of the radiator cap (which should be open during the bleeding process).
also remember to check for the color of the coolant, which should be red if factory coolant is used. toyota OEM red long life coolant is highly recommended!
bleeding involves holding the revs at 1.5k-2k so the water pump can work out all the bubbles. i personally have best experience doing this on an incline, front of the car higher than the rear to move as much air to the top of the cooling system to purge out of the radiator cap (which should be open during the bleeding process).
also remember to check for the color of the coolant, which should be red if factory coolant is used. toyota OEM red long life coolant is highly recommended!
This resulted in the engine coolant temperature gauge immediately dropping down to the normal operating temperature. The vehicle's heater also started blowing warm air as soon as the engine coolant temperature gauge dropped back down to the normal level.
If the parts arrive on time, I'll be blurping the cooling system as well as replacing the thermostat and fan clutch this weekend. I'll update this thread with my results.
#12
Rookie
Thread Starter
I have good news! I replaced my thermostat, fan clutch and blurped the cooling system and my temperature gauge is not rising anymore! I replaced the thermostat first and blurped the cooling system right after installing my new thermostat.
After blurping the cooling system, I took my vehicle for a test drive and everything seemed to be fine. I replaced the fan clutch as well just for peace of mind. Thank you to those that helped me out!
After blurping the cooling system, I took my vehicle for a test drive and everything seemed to be fine. I replaced the fan clutch as well just for peace of mind. Thank you to those that helped me out!
Last edited by 96UCF20; 06-12-16 at 05:55 PM.
#14
Rookie
Thread Starter
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post